Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 3488305)

IF simply being 'wrong' made someone a fraud then every pharmaceutical company, every doctor and every hospital would be confirmed 'frauds' and being charged with 'fraud'.

But they are not.
Because (for example) at the time, Doctor Jones did sincerely believe that prescribing boloxifiian tablets would lend cure to conligers syndrome,
and,
it is 'beside the point' that Dr. Jones got confused over what he was reading in his journal and had a wrong idea about how this worked.
He is not a 'fraud' or 'charlatan'.

btw.. this is also why mentally insane people who believe they are Prince Henry are NOT considered to be 'liars' or 'defrauding' or ever accused of identify theft.
It is simply because they believe they are Prince Henry YOU do not call them frauds.
Now 'intellectual hypocrite' would be an interesting name we could discuss here don't you think?

Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 3488305)

Yes it does make him less of a 'Charlatan' and you can see this idea constantly in Courts of Law.
IF you actually believe some bull**** you won't be charged with fraud or misrepresentation etc.

IF simply being 'wrong' made someone a fraud then every pharmaceutical company, every doctor and every hospital would be confirmed 'frauds' and being charged with 'fraud'.
But they are not.
Because (for example) at the time, Doctor Jones did sincerely believe that prescribing boloxifiian tablets would lend cure to conligers syndrome,
and,
it is 'beside the point' that Dr. Jones got confused over what he was reading in his journal and had a wrong idea about how this worked.
He is not a 'fraud' or 'charlatan'.

btw.. this is also why mentally insane people who believe they are Prince Henry are NOT considered to be 'liars' or 'defrauding' or ever accused of identify theft.
It is simply because they believe they are Prince Henry YOU do not call them frauds.
Now 'intellectual hypocrite' would be an interesting name we could discuss here don't you think?

Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 3488491)

I couldn't understand a bloody word of any of that either... :conf:

When you can write something that makes any sort of sense come back & try to prove your point...

Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 3491789)

What I wrote makes perfect sense. It is a step-by-step explanation. IF you have problems understanding any of that then its you.
You are the problem.
That is damn sad you don't understand simple ethics and easy-to-see examples of right and wrong.

Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 3491889)

Obviously not just me, as others also said they could not understand a word you were going on about... :xyxwave:

How am I the problem that you cannot make any sense??? :conf:

It's a damn shame you cannot see that Dave is a fake, taking advantage of the sick & vulnerable in claiming he can cure them of their ills... :nono:

Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 3492243)

Nope.
Its you.
You and about 3 others here who have some kind of real problem comprehending basics they themselves actually DO apply in other areas of their life yet become intellectual hypocrites lost and confused in some moral relativity.
Its 'cognitive dissonance'.
The actual problem is in you receiving and processing the information and chopping it up into nonsense so it won't offend your 'emotional' and 'political' opinion.

btw.. people like you are the most easy to take advantage of when a real fraud comes along. A good con artist would see you as a perfect meal.

Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 3492263)

No sorry, wrong :xyxwave:

You made no sense... :sleep: