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SFGiantsfan 19-07-2010 09:22 AM

I consider myself an open minded person but Dave comes across as a fake. He says he's against gay marriage but every chance he gets he's hugging up on the male housemates. I also get the impression that he walks all over his wife.

sooty 19-07-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3520192)
He was being sanctimonious for effect. All me love looking at tits. he was pretending to be all "married and responsible" when really he was thinking about nailing keevaaaar :hugesmile:

Hello, you are back!! :xyxwave:

psychtracker 19-07-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SFGiantsfan (Post 3520257)
I consider myself an open minded person but Dave comes across as a fake. He says he's against gay marriage but every chance he gets he's hugging up on the male housemates. I also get the impression that he walks all over his wife.

OPEN MINDED!!!???

Geez...those are some of the most narrow minded comments (assumptions) i've read.

No wonder the world's so fcked UP!!!

:hugesmile:

WOMBAI 19-07-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sooty (Post 3520260)
Hello, you are back!! :xyxwave:

Just what I was thinking - it is always nice to see a familiar face/name! :hugesmile:

supergirthuk 19-07-2010 09:53 AM

Not bothered about his religious views or how he earns a crust. Hate him cos he's welsh. :hugesmile::joker::hugesmile::joker::hugesmile:

ElProximo 19-07-2010 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by supergirthuk (Post 3520300)
Not bothered about his religious views or how he earns a crust. Hate him cos he's welsh. :hugesmile::joker::hugesmile::joker::hugesmile:

That's more like it.

Hero1 19-07-2010 10:12 AM

I dislike like him because he clearly is using methods used in a counselling and psychology world CONSTANTLY. These methods are somewhat manipulative if used outside of an professional setting, it is adopted to build trust Client/patient and professional trusts and get people talking.

These are mimicking persons actions, body, tone, eye contact, speech and actions. Even then a counsellor or a psychologist will limit these emapthic actions, Dave does these full throttle.

If someone is laying down, he will lay down, if someone is painting nails, he will paint nails, if someone is hunging a man, he will hung a man, if someone drinks, he will drink, if someone looks sad, he looks sad, if someone is laughing he will laugh (it is all done to get people talking and trust in him)...however, he has another trick up his sleeve, where he will laugh to make people feel good.

Of course there is nothing wrong with what he is doing, but he knows what he is doing to build trust, keep himself safe and backstab whilst looking like the Good christian.

Quite honestly, I never agree with anyone pimping Christ to make a living full stop. Use Christ to give back to the community and help the poor, FINE, but not to invade a hard days work and pay your bills by using christ.

as90 19-07-2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hero1 (Post 3520324)
I dislike like him because he clearly is using methods used in a counselling and psychology world CONSTANTLY. These methods are somewhat manipulative if used outside of an professional setting, it is adopted to build trust Client/patient and professional trusts and get people talking.

These are mimicking persons actions, body, tone, eye contact, speech and actions. Even then a counsellor or a psychologist will limit these emapthic actions, Dave does these full throttle.

If someone is laying down, he will lay down, if someone is painting nails, he will paint nails, if someone is hunging a man, he will hung a man, if someone drinks, he will drink, if someone looks sad, he looks sad, if someone is laughing he will laugh (it is all done to get people talking and trust in him)...however, he has another trick up his sleeve, where he will laugh to make people feel good.

Of course there is nothing wrong with what he is doing, but he knows what he is doing to build trust, keep himself safe and backstab whilst looking like the Good christian.

Quite honestly, I never agree with anyone pimping Christ to make a living full stop. Use Christ to give back to the community and help the poor, FINE, but not to invade a hard days work and pay your bills by using christ.

Go and live in a country where Christians are persecuted and come back and see if you have the same views. And lol about the laughing part. Absolute tosh you speak.

Hero1 19-07-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by as90 (Post 3520333)
Go and live in a country where Christians are persecuted and come back and see if you have the same views. And lol about the laughing part. Absolute tosh you speak.

Erm, I have been Baptised, fast monthly.

I would never dream of making money of christ and any congregation, rather kill myself first.

psychtracker 19-07-2010 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hero1 (Post 3520324)
I dislike like him because he clearly is using methods used in a counselling and psychology world CONSTANTLY. These methods are somewhat manipulative if used outside of an professional setting, it is adopted to build trust Client/patient and professional trusts and get people talking.

These are mimicking persons actions, body, tone, eye contact, speech and actions. Even then a counsellor or a psychologist will limit these emapthic actions, Dave does these full throttle.

If someone is laying down, he will lay down, if someone is painting nails, he will paint nails, if someone is hunging a man, he will hung a man, if someone drinks, he will drink, if someone looks sad, he looks sad, if someone is laughing he will laugh (it is all done to get people talking and trust in him)...however, he has another trick up his sleeve, where he will laugh to make people feel good..........................

A well thought out post, but i think you are overestimating him.

Hero1 19-07-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by psychtracker (Post 3520347)
A well thought out post, but i think you are overestimating him.

Basically i should have said, he has snake like actions.

He is like the snake that got Eve to bite into the apple.

He has the ablity to get you to trust in him for your money and to end your dreams with his nominations, whilst fooling you into believing he is your friend.

psychtracker 19-07-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hero1 (Post 3520353)
Basically i should have said, he has snake like actions.

He is like the snake that got Eve to bite into the apple.

He has the ablity to get you to trust in him for your money and to end your dreams with his nominations, whilst fooling you into believing he is your friend.

I don't think he's as cunning or intelligent as you would like to believe.

ElProximo 19-07-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hero1 (Post 3520324)
I dislike like him because he clearly is using methods used in a counselling and psychology world CONSTANTLY. These methods are somewhat manipulative if used outside of an professional setting, it is adopted to build trust Client/patient and professional trusts and get people talking.

These are mimicking persons actions, body, tone, eye contact, speech and actions. Even then a counsellor or a psychologist will limit these emapthic actions, Dave does these full throttle.

If someone is laying down, he will lay down, if someone is painting nails, he will paint nails, if someone is hunging a man, he will hung a man, if someone drinks, he will drink, if someone looks sad, he looks sad, if someone is laughing he will laugh (it is all done to get people talking and trust in him)...however, he has another trick up his sleeve, where he will laugh to make people feel good.

Of course there is nothing wrong with what he is doing, but he knows what he is doing to build trust, keep himself safe and backstab whilst looking like the Good christian.

Quite honestly, I never agree with anyone pimping Christ to make a living full stop. Use Christ to give back to the community and help the poor, FINE, but not to invade a hard days work and pay your bills by using christ.

I notice he does these 'mirroring' types of things but that is not necessarily something contrived and being manipulated.
It is true that psychologists, counselors and too often salesmen do these things,
but,
in fact, it is natural for highly empathetic people to do this and very often they don't realize they are doing it.
It is also a type of behavior seen in people who are seeking empathy and want to be trusted and accepted. It goes both ways.
So far, I don't see anything 'nefarious' in this and does seem to be a 'natural' part of his personality.

I would strongly agree that anyone thinking the Gospel is some way to make money is a perverse mind,
however,
IF we are talking about a pastor or priest who was asked to devote themselves full-time to the congregation?
Sure, of course they can be paid for their time. That is for the congregation to decide (ultimately) and so be it and nothing wrong. Of course they are not being 'paid for the Gospel' but for their time.

psychtracker 19-07-2010 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 3520373)
I notice he does these 'mirroring' types of things but that is not necessarily something contrived and being manipulated.
It is true that psychologists, counselors and too often salesmen do these things, but, in fact, it is natural for highly empathetic people to do this and very often they don't realize they are doing it.
It is also a type of behavior seen in people who are seeking empathy and want to be trusted and accepted. It goes both ways.
So far, I don't see anything 'nefarious' in this and does seem to be a 'natural' part of his personality.

Well said, my thoughts exactly.

lynette 19-07-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by snookered (Post 3519324)
No. Because he's a conman using religion to dupe people and cash in.

Absolutely right!

I just wish people in the house would call him on it......I know Andrew can see him for what he really is!

chuff me dizzy 19-07-2010 02:03 PM

I dislike him for a LOT of reasons ,but HATE him for his religious bull$h1t

lynette 19-07-2010 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hero1 (Post 3520324)
if someone is hunging a man, he will hung a man,

You can't mean HANGING - that wouldn't be allowed in BB UK :joker:

Do you mean HUGGING?

Patricia4 19-07-2010 02:06 PM

I dont dislike him for his religious I dislike like him because he's very two faced and sly.

Bigbrofan25 19-07-2010 02:09 PM

I was rasied catholic and I do NOT hate dave for is religion at all but he goes over the top with the getting drunk thing and the fact he is a protestant getting drunk on the word would be branded a herotic in church terms

chuff me dizzy 19-07-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigbrofan25 (Post 3520970)
I was rasied catholic and I do NOT hate dave for is religion at all but he goes over the top with the getting drunk thing and the fact he is a protestant getting drunk on the word would be branded a herotic in church terms

What are your ideas on him conning money out of cancer victims ?

Bigbrofan25 19-07-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 3520978)
What are your ideas on him conning money out of cancer victims ?

Plain sick and discusting is my view on that

chuff me dizzy 19-07-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigbrofan25 (Post 3520984)
Plain sick and discusting is my view on that

He should never have been allowed in the house ,whos on standby to come in Hooky ?

Tamtam 19-07-2010 02:19 PM

I used to really like Dave, but then because of what i was reading I actually did some reading and I have to say it put me right off him :(

Bigbrofan25 19-07-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 3520990)
He should never have been allowed in the house ,whos on standby to come in Hooky ?

No he shouldn`t have been allowed in the house all he is doing is advertising his own self interests

Fact is to make huge claims that if you donate money you`ll get cured of cancer? is wrong and its sick boasting about it makes it even more sick on national TV

He is using religion to con people thats what they do some of those protestant ministers change it to suit themselves

Oh by the way mr dowling was rasied as catholic too btw:xyxwave:

Crimson Dynamo 19-07-2010 02:30 PM

the guy is a faker

plain old snake oil salesman

and about as slippery


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