was ben disabled? and im on about other forum members that blatently admit they stick up for him because of his disablity.

what you are saying, is rachel told ben to stop, but she doesnt dare tell steve because hes disabled?!

[QUOTE=housemate;3589231][QUOTE=WOMBAI;3589097]Does it concern me that, in your opinion, I am not always correct - the honest answer to that is - no it doesn't! :hugesmile:

yes.

[QUOTE=WOMBAI;3589320][QUOTE=housemate;3589231]You missed the point :elephant:

I never said he was exempt from negative comments, of course, not - but there are negative ones, and there are downright nasty ones!

He has done nothing to deserve being called a pervert - and the fact that many youngsters are jumping on that bandwagon has everything to do with his age and appearance which does encompass his disability! Are you really that naive?

I too have had a son out in Afghanistan risking his own life and therefore have hugh admiration for all service personnel - and cannot just sit back and listen to kids making such unfounded slanderous remarks! How you feel is your own affair, how I feel is mine!

JEDWARD FEVER is dead right and also although I dont like JJames, it was said if he was doing what Steve was doing no one would think anything of it, well, of course they would'nt but JJames is not a married man with 8 children to his name. I would hate to see my Father drooling like Steve is over younger women when he KNOWS his family are watching, even likely the younger ones too. Sick and gross he is.

[QUOTE=housemate;3589355][QUOTE=WOMBAI;3589320]Did I - please enlighen me! :rolleyes:

Closing this for the minute. let people chill out a bit. Will clean it of arguments and open again later.

Opening this again. No need to get so personal with each other or so wound up about stuff.

But you don't have the right to project your feelings onto Steve and his family! Steve's son (so he said) came on her once and said the loved his dad and was proud of him - you have no right to speak for them!

Steve is NOT a pervert - lets wait to hear Rachel's views shall we - when she comes out, and maybe Keeley too when she recovers!

you cant tell people that they cant call him a pervert its a forum afterall.

I agree. I don't like people I barely know being over-friendly.

How anyone can think Mario has gotten away with doing worse than Steve I don't know. Steve is in an entirely different league of sleaze.

Yes it is - but to call a man a pervert for the same tactile behaviour displayed by most of the hms is OTT!

Why?

not even mario is as pervy as steve.

It seems to even go beyond that male bonding stuff. Lying in eachothers arms for hours lol

Rachel was sitting on his bed the other night after lights out in pants and top in yoga position with thighs apart and he was stroking her thigh from knee to top of thigh for ages.Thing is she said nothing and didnt move so shes as bad.

Mario is far worse than Steve!

If she doesn't object - why should you! It is all nonsense from a group of people who simply don't like anything about Steve!

i didnt mind steve until he started perving over keeley and rachel.

If I were Steves wife or one of his children I would find that very uncomfortable to see.

If the girl is uncomfortable she can say so, I saw her sit there for 30 mins while he stroked her legs, it was inappropriate but she didn't move so..it is hard to demand the fiend unhands her.

I was uncomfortable watching it, but i've been uncomfortable with all the other "stroking" that goes on.

That's a very good point, I have been puzzled by how much some of the housemates have been with each other. I don't behave like this with mates I've had for over twenty years.

Maybe I'm just too old school these days :joker: