But would they like it done to THEIR homes?I doubt it somehow?

Most things that the HMs do are subjective however when one of them is heard to blatently lie (not just Dave .. but it is Dave we are discussing) or do any number of other things I could cite re Dave, having seen and heard the context for myself, it is wrong to deny that they ever happened or make lame excuses about them.
Had Dave not wanted to be judged by his 'mantle' then he should have gone in as Mr Dave V .. not as a Christian Minister, I still wouldn't have liked him but the issue of his religion wouldn't have gauged him or his actions.

Quote: Dave was the voice of reason a lot of the times, when he pointed out John James hypocrisy for instance, and this is something I've often seem from him, but it tends to go unacknowledged, as do most of his more commendable actions

As much as I dislike Dave, I started a thread a few days ago praising him abpout a very similar issue.

When the chips are down. When all's bread and done..........erm..........???

YAWN :sleep: Dave's PA is back... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

It is just desperate attention seeking behaviour as he doesn't want to go tonight... A final last ditch attemp... Sad t***...

And I'm sure Dave has hurt plenty of people in the past, giving them false hope by claiming he can cure them of cancer etc... Vile con man... :nono:

When are you referring to with his "blatant lying"?

I see where you are coming from with regards to entering as a Minister but I still dont think he should be solely defined by his religious beliefs, theres clearly a lot more to him than that.

Although credit to you if you did start a thread praising Dave, I hadnt realised

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So, do you have a belief that any religious person - never lies, cheats, steals nor ever does anything wrong?

No, not at all ... I have my beliefs which state that we are all human and fallible.
A Minister is in a higher position than us ordinary Joes, he is charged with teaching by word and example.
My opinion is that Dave has let himself and his Church down, his portrayal of himself as a 'Man of God' just isn't believable, he makes too many repeated 'mistakes'.
Again plain Mr Dave V. would have sailed across most of these incidents, a self proclaimed Preacher behaving that way never had a hope of doing anything other than crashing.

They all do it - why should Dave be exempt - especially when considering it is all part of a tv gameshow - not something he is doing in real life to hurt someone!

I agree with every word of that!

Quote: "When are you referring to with his "blatant lying"?

The latest was yesterday (I think, so much has gone on over the past two days) , he was going on (and on) to Corin, telling her that he had no idea where the wigs had been hidden, hadn't had anything to do with the 'prank' and he was certain that it hadn't been done to upset her. ....
I don't know if you saw him on Sunday, goading Sam for hours about taking the wigs because it would have Corin raging etc, etc.....
He actually told quite a few 'howlers' that day ... I'm sure the post are still up, I contributed as it was going on.

Oh jeez, I bet you are the life and soul at a party!

ffs you can still have fun when you are over 30 you know there isn't a cut off point, in fact its a very healthy thing to do! You only live once for gods sake.

I am NO Dave fan, I dislike him for many reasons but one of his redeaming qualities is that he will let his hair down and have a laugh, he has a great sence of fun and that is a positive thing. If I was in the BB house and it was potentially my last night there, I would definitely join in!

You really need to lighten up lady and let go once in a while. Ever heard of your free child?

No but then Partypoopers wouldn't , would they.

This thread is entitled "Sam and Dave have trashed the BB house". But as usual, it's turned into a "Dave is not a very good Christian" thread.

Brilliant. Yet again shades of 'Marcus Akin' or it's quite similar to when Mikey (BB9) threw Chick peas everywhere shouting 'chick peas, chick peas'

Apologies. However if I don't respond to the posts I get accused of not having an answer, wombi for one does love her little taunts!
I will get off and leave the thread to recover its purpose.
I hope you all have a good eviction night and get your wish for who goes! ..
Bye xx

I don't agree that he has let either himself or his Church down - I think he is just being himself, having a laugh - but also trying to play the game, as he is as entitled to win as anyone else! And I think he would use the money more wisely than many of the others!

Being over-the-top at times is clearly part of his personality - something, no doubt, his church supporters love him for - he is very charasmatic -and full of enthusiasm in his approach to life! He has added a 'spark' to the show - that he no doubt adds to his church activities! Dave is Dave - no pretence, no airs and graces - what you see is what you get - in my opinion!

Very much a case of taking one to know one! :sleep: