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I know a bloke like that he constantly whines and whines tells everyone how bad everything is (like jodie)and people give him advise and he doesnt take it then he whines some more and more - after a while you kinda switch off, and it grates on you - you have to remember in that house every thing is magnified 10 times as their is nothing else going on so everything gets blown out of proportion. I think if Id have to listen to her whine on and on as she did I have flipped or gone nuts in that enviroment youd just think SHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP women stop going on and on, slating poeple, whining, being just a complete HYPERCRIT!!!!!!! its tiring!!

i BASICALLY THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD SHE ISNT STRONG ENOUGH TO BE IN THE PUBLIC EYE SHE CLEARKY CANT HANDLE IT! HERE ONLY WAY OF GETTING PUBLICITY IS BY GOING ON ABOUT OTHER CLEBS! SHE DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE AS FAR AS I CAN SEE....THATS IS ALL SHE DOES?

OH APART FROM WEAR BELTS AS CLOTHING:rolleyes:

OOP caps sorry..........

Are you still here? It's not an endangered species at all. If it had been, then there would've been further action taken against him. The coat is also vintage, so nothing actually died for his pleasure at all. First of all, it wasn't 'an attack' - it was tongue-in-cheek, which Malibu Traci was fully aware of throughout. Secondly, he didn't make her cry at all - Preston did. Watch the highlights of that night back, and you'll realise that she as good as quotes the comments Preston made when he nominated her (shown live to the other hm's on the plasma screen). So you've not 'formed your own opinions' at all, you simply weren't paying attention to what was being said when you watched the edited highlights. Any more myths you'd like cleared up?

Why do you pick out small parts of what I have put and then ask questions about points that I have already made? Let's go through it.

I said they may not have been that nice to her but she was no angel herself.

I'm fully aware of her dislike for Jordan but the point I made was the horrible way in which she talked about Jordan got Michaels back up and was a reason for why they rowed but they were unable to show her talking about Jordan as it was so vile and due to legal issues.

I've fully explained my reasons for disliking Jodie and you cannot seem to grasp them and seem to have yor own agenda with regards to people's opinions on her. I cannot put it anymore clearer!

If I'd like any myths cleared up I certainly wouldn't ask you, as your answers show me how misinformed you are.
Firstly and most importantly, Pete's coat IS from an endangered species. The Colobus monkey is a protected species, but it is less under threat than gorilla and therefore had it been gorilla fur it would have been more serious.

But the stupid comment of the week has to be where you said the coat is actually vintage so nothing died for his pleasure. Hello? Are you serious? Something died, it just happened to be along time ago!

Personally I'd still hate him even if he wore rabbit fur. I don't like the type of people that think it's ok for any animals to die in the name of fashion.

Traci cried when Pete left the room by the way. Though to be honest, whether she cried or not isn't that relevant, I saw his attack and him call her an LA *****, so that just added to my already low opinion of him. No brainwashing, I have given my reasons plain and simple for not liking the man or whatever the hell he is.

I'm not your luv or darling so don't call me that.

I said people are brainwashed because I have asked on here and other posts for people to explain why they don't like her and all I've got is that she's retalliated to an attack by slagging off the attacker. Such an invalid reason to call someone vile and digusting that i can only assume they have been brainwashed, not because I don't agree with them.
Finally I am getting some valid reasons for why people don't like her, and although I don't agree, at least they are proper personal reasons. So no it's not about whether I agree or not.

If you offered advice by screaming insults at someone then yes it would make you a bad person. They weren't exactly warm and supportive when giving advice. There is a difference.

Traci cried, are you saying that when someone is picked on they should just cry? Should someone not get angry and retaliate? We are all different and people handle things differently, neither were 'wrong'


NOW you have given your own opinions, about time. No I don't agree but I will no longer say you're brainwashed.

Yes I do absolutely know what MISOGAMY means.... and I can spell it. The reason I suspect misogamy is that a male (ie pete) can get away with a certain type of behaviour, but when a female does it she is despised.

Whether you find it disgusting or not is irrelevant to me. I wonder if Jodie would p*ss on him though?

Not trying to make anyone like her, just don't agree with people being called vile for retaliating when they get attacked.

MISOGAMY??? that means hatred of marriage!! MISOGYNY means hatred of all women!! so yes i can spell it!!!! so what are you talking about. i am not a hater of all women. and because you think pete is getting away with the same behaviour does not mean misogyny either.

Im not going to keep answering the same things all time, you have read how i feel about her why i feel Traci was the better person for the way she handled it, and you see nothing wrong with jodies behaviour, we have different opinions on what happened in the house, so lets just leave it at that.

Misogyny, as piratedj said, is definitely the correct spelling for the word meaning hatred or prejudice against women.

With regards to giving reasons for disliking Jodie - most people have already given their reasons. I'm not going to repeat everything I wrote in my second post on this thread, but all of my personal reasons for disliking her are in there. You don't have to agree with those reasons ally, but people are perfectly entitled to them, and if you don't agree, it does not mean their reasons are not valid.

If you had come in here and made your points in a reasonable manner, people might be more inclined to take notice of what you say. But coming in here, insulting forum members and calling them names will only get people's backs up, and nobody will be inclined to listen to any points you might want to make.

I really enjoy discussing BB with the people on here - and many of us don't share the same opinions about housemates, presenters, etc. but we do manage to have those conversations without insulting each other, and it is generally a very friendly place. It is good to hear other people's points of view, but insulting other forum members is un-necessary and out of order.

HAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAA...... ok it was late, I was tired. Although I'm sure you edited it cos you spelt it wrong..... hee hee.

You're all too sensitive. Do I get another warning? :tongue:

"Black and white colobus monkeys are not an endangered species but are vulnerable to habitat destruction and human overpopulation." Zoo.org.

Only some species of RED colobus monkey are endangered. Primates.com.

Had the coat been manufactured from the fur of an endangered species, Pete would've faced prosecution under the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES), which was passed in 1975. It wasn't, and he didn't. BBC News.

On the list of primates that are considered 'endangered', there are eight species of colobus monkey. All of them are RED, none of them are black and white. LINK.

And on the official list of some 5,000 species, only two species of colobus monkey appear - procolobus pennantii kirkii (Kirk's RED colobus) and procolobus ruformitratus (Tana river RED colobus). CITES.org.

Please remind me once again - who's 'misinformed'?


I think you have an unrivalled monopoly on "stupid comment of the week", as you put it. "Something died ... along time ago!" for oil to be available. Do you refuse to travel in cars, avoid all plastic products, refuse to eat vegetables grown in fertilized soil, avoid all cosmetic products (even those allegedly not tested on animals) and walk around barefoot (as you'd clearly never even dream of wearing leather)? And you've been watching CBB on a television which is constructed from a significant amount of plastic, and ditto the computer you're using. All those countless billions of innocent diatoms, that have died for YOUR pleasure! How can you sleep at night?

She actually cried some time after he'd left the room, rather than 'when he left the room'. There's quite a difference, which was obvious to anyone that was paying attention. If it "isn't that relevant", then why did you mention it in the first place? As for the rest of your paragraph, you were wrong the first time around. Repeating yourself ad infinitum isn't going to change that fact one iota.