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Mystic Mock 31-08-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 3742494)
OK, I loved sam but this comment is ridiculous :laugh:

im trying to be fair here and that is what i saw.

Shardlake 31-08-2010 07:18 PM

'Comedians' like Roy Chubby Brown and Bernard Manning have a lot to answer for, for making this kind of thing seem remotely acceptable

Mystic Mock 31-08-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shardlake (Post 3742514)
'Comedians' like Roy Chubby Brown and Bernard Manning have a lot to answer for, for making this kind of thing seem remotely acceptable

what your saying is then that gay people and of colour people are above the law?

Melanie20 31-08-2010 07:22 PM

It's a lot of rubbish to say you can only criticise 'white hetrosexual men'. I remember when Pete was in the house you weren't allowed to criticize him at all because 'he's got Tourettes you know' I was always like: 'So?' When Steve the disabled guy in this BB got criticised in the beginning of BB11 people would jump down your throat if you said anything about him because: 'he's a war hero, you know' :rolleyes: it was only in the end of BB when people realised he was a boring fart that the we cried 'havoc' and 'let loose the dogs of war'. ;)

Lee. 31-08-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 3742490)
I didnt think you would do that anyway.

I'm just trying to show the difference.

I dont see how anyone could say saying makosi was a bitch was racist, unless there was a reference to her color in the statement.

Same as noone could say calling Brian a dickhead is homophobic, unless they make some reference to his sexuality at the same time.

This is where many people go wrong.

Yeah I agree with you completely! Some people just seem to be so blinkered when it comes to their favourite hm, that they can't accept their negative traits and therefore quickly throw the race/homophobic card.

Abhorsen 31-08-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 3742478)
Being gay isn't a choice. :S

Its how you were born.

People aren't born fat. And can change it by diet and exercise

There is no evidence for people being born gay. That is a myth, like the one about how we only use 10% of our brains, it's all nonsense with no basis in science.

And there is evidence that people with different genes react differently to food and exercise.

The best you can say is that genes AND the environment work together to produce the outcomes for weight and sexual preference.

I don't think you're right to say that it is OK to discriminate on weight but not on being gay, we should NOT discriminate on either, people's appearance whether they choose it or not, what next? Is it OK to discriminate on tattoos and colour of hair (dyed or not)?

Shardlake 31-08-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 3742522)
what your saying is then that gay people and of colour people are above the law?

Dont be ridiculous. I am saying using peoples differences against them be it colour, sexuality, disability or whatever, which they have no control over is wrong and actually illegal and should not be tolerated on any level.

If you murder someone it does not make a slight difference if you are gay, straight, black or from Mars you will be punished. You will not get anymore of a heavier sentence for being a black murderer than a white murderer would.

Beso 31-08-2010 07:24 PM

brian's a lesbian

Chuckyegg 31-08-2010 07:25 PM

You can criticise who you like. Just stop being cheap and nasty.

Melanie20 31-08-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuckyegg (Post 3742542)
You can criticise who you like. Just stop being cheap and nasty.

Absolutely!

Abhorsen 31-08-2010 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigbrofan25 (Post 3742465)
No you didn`t mention his sexuality and that didn`t mean you were being anti gay

The reason you got pulled up by some was because back in the 1950s and before that Gay people were treated as perverts in the same league as rapists are today

They were sent to prison for being gay thats why some people pulled you up over your coments because it could have seemed you were being anti gay by branding a gay person a pervert

Though I don`t blame you for what you said because you didn`t call him a gay pervert or anything so I personally wouldn`t say you were being homophobic at all

To be fair to 'jedward fever' he called Mario a sex pest because Mario hit on every male in the house and even when they pushed him away he kept pestering them - therefore a sex pest. That is nothing to do with the 1950s!

Claymores 31-08-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3742413)
Iain, I also think that because of the PC brigade, people are no longer allowed to admit to having a sense of humour, so you'll probably be sentenced to a TiBB death! :rolleyes:

Can we fix it? YES we can Bob the Portugese Builder :joker:

Claymores 31-08-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuckyegg (Post 3742542)
You can criticise who you like. Just stop being cheap and nasty.

I'm a poundstecher shining wit then chuck - I'll need to up my game

ElProximo 31-08-2010 07:31 PM

Post of the Decade:

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Originally Posted by Abhorsen (Post 3742322)
If you criticize Brian you're a homophobe, if you criticize Makosi (or any black/non white HM) you are racist and if you criticize Nadia you're anti-trannie.

I'm surprised no one has threatened to go to the NSPCC for the criticism of Nikki!

Enough with the card carrying BS. It is possible for those gay HMs to be arseholes (no pun intended- male HM) and transsexuals and non whites to be loud mouthed idiots. I've also noticed that people tend to be less bothered if it's a gay female HM that is getting criticized!!! But hey, sexism (against men and women) is never mentioned!!!

Being gay, transsexual and/or non white does NOT mean you are immune from the faults that the rest of the human race has!!!! It does NOT give you *special* qualities and make you a nice person.

And if you can't accept that you have some serious growing up to do.


I'm not even so sure you can't make some reasonable teasing of those specific identities.
Many people (and before Marcy in BB9) brought up how it was acceptable to tease or mock someone's regional dialect in an impersonation of their voice.
A HM might mimic another for a manx way of saying something or perhaps they spoke slowly,
but,
If the HM being 'impersonated' affects a 'gay lisp' then impersonations are crimes.
If the HM has a regional dialect outside the UK its possibly a racist crime.

Years ago the US Comedian Dennis Miller did a 'rant' about this where he pointed out some of these 'hypocrisies' and how he can absolutely RIP Lawyers in his act.
(maybe other examples like Cops, Southerners, Intellectual Elites) but his point was how if he made rips on homosexuals then it was suddenly 'off limits'.
What he was actually trying to say was that he resented gays being treated unequally as if they were so weak, so powerless, such fragile little 'faberge eggs' that it was an insult to treat them as if they needed such protection at all.
Lawyers can take a joke and understand its not really a threat. Southerners know its a joke and don't actually take it seriously. Gays need to step up and take it too.

People get to sit in BB living rooms and tell others their God doesn't exist. If they sincerely believe that then so be it. That is capturing a real person who really thinks the other has it wrong.
Likewise, if a HM sincerely tells another they think homosexuality is a perversion then so be it. That's a real person being observed saying a real thing they believe.

And as far as I'm concerned - I would rather have this simply out in the open where it does get addressed, discussed, EVEN IF people disagree but then let the court of public discourse work it out.
By 'suppressing it' you don't do anything but hide it and it never changes, is never enlightened. So what is the point of that?


Anyways, /rant

Shardlake 31-08-2010 07:33 PM

I'm out of this thread before I burst a blood vessel

Claymores 31-08-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 3742539)
brian's a lesbian

I like your sig, but that would be 2 winners :hugesmile:

Lee. 31-08-2010 07:36 PM

Why was my last post re Afromullets post been deleted?

billy123 31-08-2010 07:40 PM

Look at this for the most pathetic infraction ever you know its turned to poo pie when things have got this bad :joker::joker::joker: dont use the word wankaphobic kids its offensive apparently :rolleyes:

p.s. this post wasnt reported by a member it was entirely off a mods own back to infract for it.

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Mystic Mock 31-08-2010 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shardlake (Post 3742538)
Dont be ridiculous. I am saying using peoples differences against them be it colour, sexuality, disability or whatever, which they have no control over is wrong and actually illegal and should not be tolerated on any level.

If you murder someone it does not make a slight difference if you are gay, straight, black or from Mars you will be punished. You will not get anymore of a heavier sentence for being a black murderer than a white murderer would.

but when people get called racist or homophobic and probably both depending on if its a gay black man,they dont do anything in there post that makes them a racist or homophobic most of the posts i see.

Bigbrofan25 31-08-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Abhorsen (Post 3742536)
There is no evidence for people being born gay. That is a myth, like the one about how we only use 10% of our brains, it's all nonsense with no basis in science.

And there is evidence that people with different genes react differently to food and exercise.

The best you can say is that genes AND the environment work together to produce the outcomes for weight and sexual preference.

I don't think you're right to say that it is OK to discriminate on weight but not on being gay, we should NOT discriminate on either, people's appearance whether they choose it or not, what next? Is it OK to discriminate on tattoos and colour of hair (dyed or not)?

Genes do play a roll in sexuality its not by choice at all thats just a myth

Many people who are gay wished they were straight some of them hate the way they are do you honestly think if they could choose to be straight they wouldn`t jump at the chance

Did you choose to be hetrosexual?

Lee. 31-08-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3742614)
Why was my last post re Afromullets post been deleted?

Anybody?

All I said was "Excellent post " or something... which it was. It wasn't offensive or derogatory, so why was it also deleted??

Mystic Mock 31-08-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3742698)
Anybody?

All I said was "Excellent post " or something... which it was. It wasn't offensive or derogatory, so why was it also deleted??

a mod hates you.:hugesmile:

Vicky. 31-08-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Abhorsen (Post 3742536)
I don't think you're right to say that it is OK to discriminate on weight but not on being gay, we should NOT discriminate on either, people's appearance whether they choose it or not, what next? Is it OK to discriminate on tattoos and colour of hair (dyed or not)?

I dont agree with any form of discrimination. But comparing someone being slagged off for being fat and someone being slagged off because they are gay, is ridiculous IMO.

And its not right, but yes, people do discriminate on both of what you said too.

Vicky. 31-08-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3742614)
Why was my last post re Afromullets post been deleted?

No idea, give me two secs :S

Is it in this thread?

Beso 31-08-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 3742635)
Look at this for the most pathetic infraction ever you know its turned to poo pie when things have got this bad :joker::joker::joker: dont use the word wankaphobic kids its offensive apparently :rolleyes:

p.s. this post wasnt reported by a member it was entirely off a mods own back to infract for it.

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:: joker::joker::joker:


you should get a job on bb, that **** needs some drama stirred up before it falls on it's arse..


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