Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3827510)

But I don't see anyone cracking one liners about this little boy taped to the wall.. I agree a joke is just a joke. But it is one thing laughing at a joke made about something serious to actually laughing a picture of a baby's distress and fear.. You know what I mean?

I mean I chuckled at a few jokes following the horrific boxing day Tsunami.. I didn't however sit and laugh my socks off at as I watched thousands of people being swept to their death.. there is a difference!

Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3827549)

OK, fair enough.. I syill find it difficult to see any humour in doing this to a defenceless child. It would maybe be funny (well, to some) to see this happen on a stag do or in college or summat, but not to a little boy! He won't see the funny side of it afterwards. He'll just be confused and frightened as to why his mammy was doing this and scaring him.. Nah, not funny at all.

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3827553)

Black humour is a way of dealing with things people dont want to deal directly with. A coping mechanism. Saves the person getting depressed over shocking things, also prevents more serious mental problems.

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3827571)

Where did they get green duct tape by the way?

Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3827581)

James....

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3827589)

Ok ok, I was going to answer the question myself but I'll be good!

Originally Posted by ILoveTRW (Post 3827331)

Surely its crueler to call your child Angus

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3827491)

Not really. A joke is a joke. A joke. It's that simple, really. If anyone takes a joke seriously [whether it's a knock knock joke or a Fritzl joke] then there's a problem. Because a joke is not meant to be serious, and I seriously cannot stand this assumption that because I laugh or poke fun at something that is 'serious', I am condemning the act that I'm laughing at. I mean...it's...ludicrous. Similar to what kazanne said in this thread. So because I have a dark sense of humour I torture animals? One of the most laughable things I have ever heard in my life.

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 3827576)

Funny that Kazanne of all people is taking the moral high ground on this

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3827557)

Of course, I'm not denying it. There is no denying that this is a vile, repulsive, twisted thing to do, of course not. But the jokes that have been made about it are funny. Not the incident, the jokes. There is nothing funny about a young child effectively being tortured, but the comments that have been made are. And the reason why most people find 'dark' jokes funny is because of the shock factor. It's not the incident I'm laughing at, it's just how vulgar and nasty the joke is that's funny.

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3827721)

I am surprised you know what morals are!!

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3827716)

You are always trying to squirm out of stuff,by passing the 'joke'off as "I laugh at the incident,not at what happened" what a load of bollocks,something is either funny or it isn't ,So tell us all what was it exactly about THE INCIDENT that was funny?and yes i guess torture would make YOU laugh.

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3827437)

I think what really upsets me is the knowledge that, as I type this, there are probably thousands upons thousands of children like this behind closed doors who are at the mercy of scummy useless parents, being subjected to random acts of neglect and cruelty which we never hear about.

I know that little James was a relative of yours and I can still remember how I sobbed when I heard about what had happened to him. At the time my youngest son was the same age and my heart went out to Denise Bulger.

I can laugh about a lot of things, but child cruelty and neglect? NEVER.

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3827737)

Why do some people think it's cool and big to joke about this particular incident? The pictures clearly show a little lad who is terrified and bewildered with no-one to turn to, and now I'm being lectured by immature, pathetic little jerks about how I don't GET the humour in the situation? You know what, I'm bloody glad I don't - It's that sort of attitude that desensitises people to the reality and horror of such incidents. No wonder this bloody country is going down the pan.

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3827404)

Well strangely enough I thought this was the "serious debates" forum, not the forum for inappropriate infantile jokes about child abuse. Why would you take offence at the comment that you are wired differently to find child cruelty amusing, when it is so obviously a statement of fact?

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 3827729)

Sorry, was getting you mixed up with Karezza, I do apologise. And I think I've got a pretty good grasp on morality, I'm just not serious all the time with every issue, you need a bit of light relief in some cases (where appropriate). This is a sick thing to do but theres a slight funny side to it- just as there was a kind of funny side to the woman on todays This Morning who has spasmed into the shape of a flamingo

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3827557)

Of course, I'm not denying it. There is no denying that this is a vile, repulsive, twisted thing to do, of course not. But the jokes that have been made about it are funny. Not the incident, the jokes. There is nothing funny about a young child effectively being tortured, but the comments that have been made are. And the reason why most people find 'dark' jokes funny is because of the shock factor. It's not the incident I'm laughing at, it's just how vulgar and nasty the joke is that's funny.

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3827716)

something is either funny or it isn't ,

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3827716)

So tell us all what was it exactly about THE INCIDENT that was funny?

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3827716)

and yes i guess torture would make YOU laugh.

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3827726)

Hows about telling us some of your 'funny' jokes then,so we can make our own minds up whether we agree with you.

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3827759)

Exactly,shame some of them aren't taped to a wall and left there!!

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3827780)

Wrong. Things are funny to different people. It's called differing sense of humours. What's so difficult to understand about that?



Nothing about the incident was funny...are you even reading my posts, love?



Then you are evidently deluded.



What's the point? You'll just take the moral high ground anyway, regardless of whether you found them funny or not. You like to play devil's advocate.



To be honest it's comments like this that are nastier than 'sick' jokes themselves. People should be tortured or enjoy torturing people for having a different sense of humour? You are really, really clueless. It's outstanding.

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3827434)

I'm not bothered about them or their 'human rights' I am bothered that a child has suffered for their warped entertainment.

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3827823)

Jack,just be quiet

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3827823)

Just hold that thought and tell us these funny jokes you are so fond of.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 3827833)

Along with every comment from angus58,this is also a to the point and very strong comment too kazanne from you.
I personally have no symapthy at all or see anything remotely humerous in inflicting suffering of any kind on a child.
It is clear and simple assault,because the child cannot yet understand what fun and hurt may be, and its abuse too.
It os from incidents like this that in the end if unchecked, far more serious things can happen, and they do despite all the reports of child protection and making sure bad things don't happen to children.

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3827881)

I cannot believe people try to vindicate themselves finding this funny by saying "It's the jokes about it that are funny" so what are these jokes?they must be about the boy,so isn't that the same as laughing at what happened,I wonder sometimes what some of these people are on!!! If someone is an adult and a willing participant then yes laugh and joke all you like,But kids.NO.and hello Joey,nice to see you posting again.