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Stu 02-02-2011 11:05 PM

I spent the two weeks of uni with a free gaf doing Gruntpocalypse on Halo Reach with the biys up every night doing the bizong.

memories

Then everyone done an impersonation of Roberto from Futurama and later after that we fell asleep.

Good times.

Ramsay 02-02-2011 11:06 PM

http://www.whale.to/b/mansonAP3108_468x705.jpg

and yeah scott they are just so fun cus we spend about 15 mins rolling around laughing our heads off:laugh:

Iceman 02-02-2011 11:06 PM

Just noticed the 3 biggest stoners on here are all irish........haha thats amazing!

Stu 02-02-2011 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 4088948)
Just noticed the 3 biggest stoners on here are all irish........haha thats amazing!

Let's laugh at the Queen lads.

HELEN MIRREN RUNS ENGLANG ROFL~!

Stu 02-02-2011 11:09 PM

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4...qorzo1_500.jpg

Ramsay 02-02-2011 11:10 PM

Fowleys here and hes smoking a joint how ironic:laugh:
he says hi
and hes smiling just like that dog:laugh:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 02-02-2011 11:11 PM

i must be like the only person to not enjoy weed :|

i thought robots had killed my family and taken over their bodies :|

Ramsay 02-02-2011 11:13 PM


Stu 02-02-2011 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott (Post 4088956)
i must be like the only person to not enjoy weed :|

i thought robots had killed my family and taken over their bodies :|

Did it ever occur to you that you may have been spiked?

Stuff like that simply doesn't happen on weed. It's about as realistic as me saying WKD made my cock fall off and fuck me in the ear.

Stu 02-02-2011 11:14 PM

Show this to Fowley :


Fetch The Bolt Cutters 02-02-2011 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4088962)
Did it ever occur to you that you may have been spiked?

Stuff like that simply doesn't happen on weed. It's about as realistic as me saying WKD made my cock fall off and fuck me in the ear.

no it wasnt spiked :laugh:

it was because i was aready like kinda unwell :|

i had already had psychosis then i started feeling really depressed i was on antidepressants so they werent doing anything and a friend suggested weed so i tried it and got addicted i was like self medicating (thats what the doctor said i dont even know what it means)

some of it was like good though

good psychosis if you get what i mean like there are good hallucinations and bad :amazed:

Ramsay 02-02-2011 11:25 PM

Ah ya cant blame weed if you mixed it with antidepressents so

Stu 02-02-2011 11:25 PM

And were you shocked to find that drugs and psychosis don't mix all that well?

Jaysus Chrisht.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 02-02-2011 11:27 PM

no i wasnt shocked :sad:

i just felt dead and so empty and being psychotic was better than that

eugh i dont know im not normal i cant explain it :bored:

patsylimerick 02-02-2011 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4088911)
I think people who think it makes you feel 'out of control' and who have never taken it probably think it's like some trippy version of getting drunk. It's nothing like that really. You can still walk, talk and act completely fine. You can think fine if needs be like a switch you can flick on and off. It just gives you this limitless capacity for fascination. TV becomes too interesting for it's own good, food tastes just fucking brilliant, and you just can't help but giggle at how good this whole life business is. It's completely useless on it's own. It's not a drug you can use to paper over cracks or drown things out. It enhances and brings to the fore whatever your current mood and activity is.


It's still effectively decriminalized though. Cops won't fine you anymore for it. The prop would have just put it in writing. The vast, vast majority of no voters were ageing conservatives, unsurprisingly.



Check out these quotes from Harry J. Anslinger. The guy who got weed banned in America.

Plenty of lolz within.

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes...y+j.+anslinger


There are all kinds of ways your physiology can respond to weed - and the grades and quality vary so much that you can have an entirely different reaction on two separate occasions. Cannabis is mind altering, which is where it differs from alcohol and tobacco and, as someone who has been relatively familiar with all three, it's facetious to lump cannabis in with the other two and you all know it is.
A few points. Firstly, I abhor my own indulgence in dope smoking because it directly funded a dirty, filthy, violent and exploitative business. I didn't grow my own. For the little time I indulged, I fed a horrendous beast that preys on the extremely vulnerable.
So the easy answer is to legalise it....right? mmmm..............
If you legalise cannabis, you open the door to legalising everything else that alters your consciousness. I've been absolutely blathered in my life, but being high is an entirely different ball of yarn. So where do we stop legalisation and how do we decide which level of completely out of it is a step too far?
One of the major sociological arguments against the legalisation of drugs is the revelation that this step would make life easier for politicians and power brokers. 1. They could stop spending so much money trying to track down drug dealers and would remove at least this purpose for escalated levels of violent crime. 2. Excessive spending on specific drug treatment programmes would fade away as drug addiction treatment would become a mainstay on your health insurance package.
Most interestingly, though, is number 3. If drugs are legalised, society completely stands back, shuts it eyes and holds its hands up in the face of the compulsion to remove oneself entirely from reality. If we say it's OK to get high, we abdicate responsibility for the reasons people have to get ****faced from dawn till they pass out. We should be looking at why the three dimensional cold light of day is that abhorrent to so many that they have to look at it from an entirely different dimension to get through the day. Legalise them all. Let's see what happens.............

Stu 02-02-2011 11:33 PM

Quote:

Cannabis is mind altering, which is where it differs from alcohol and tobacco.
:joker:

patsylimerick 02-02-2011 11:35 PM

Take a break, Stu, you deserve it................

Stu 02-02-2011 11:36 PM

After wading my way through that paragraph of doom? You bet I do.

Lee. 03-02-2011 02:21 AM

*wonders how anyone can get all overheated about a drugs discussion*

Just chill everyone..

;) :laugh:

patsylimerick 03-02-2011 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4088980)
After wading my way through that paragraph of doom? You bet I do.

What exactly is your problem with me? The section is called serious debates, no? One would think the point was to agree or disagree, with some level of critical consideration, with a previous post. Or simply address the opening question. Your interpretation of serious debate appears to be point and giggle as you elbow your mates. I hope they're impressed...........................

Stu 03-02-2011 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 4089255)
What exactly is your problem with me? The section is called serious debates, no? One would think the point was to agree or disagree, with some level of critical consideration, with a previous post. Or simply address the opening question. Your interpretation of serious debate appears to be point and giggle as you elbow your mates. I hope they're impressed...........................

If you cannot understand why I did what I did you are not worth the debate, sorry.

I need a worthy foe, here.

lostalex 03-02-2011 11:17 AM

No harm in my opinion. I voted YES on prop 19. don't blame me.

patsylimerick 03-02-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4089314)
If you cannot understand why I did what I did you are not worth the debate, sorry.

I need a worthy foe, here.

Well perhaps you'd be better elaborating rather than simply posting :joker:. It's a bit lazy, isn't it? I've been extremely pissed in my life but I never thought the four walls were going to envelope me under the influence of alcohol. I did under the influence of cannabis. Now do you have a counterargument or are you just going to hit me with a :dance:, oh worthy foe?

lostalex 03-02-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 4089453)
Well perhaps you'd be better elaborating rather than simply posting :joker:. It's a bit lazy, isn't it? I've been extremely pissed in my life but I never thought the four walls were going to envelope me under the influence of alcohol. I did under the influence of cannabis. Now do you have a counterargument or are you just going to hit me with a :dance:, oh worthy foe?


I have a "counterargument" for you. No one in the history of the planet has ever died as a direct result of Marijuana use. Millions die of alcohol poisoning ever year. Millions die of Tobacco use every year. Millions die of prescription drug overdose every year.

No one has ever died of a Marijuana overdose in the history of the world.

That's a hell of a "counterargument". imo.

patsylimerick 03-02-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4089455)
i have a "counterargument" for you. No one in the history of the planet has ever died as a direct result of Marijuana use. Millions die of alcohol poisoning ever year. Millions die of Tobacco use every year. Millions die of prescription drug overdose every year.

No one has ever died of a Marijuana overdose in the history of the world.

That's a hell of a "counterargument". imo.

Not really, given that the original argument was that cannabis alters your state of consciousness and alcohol does not. I've never said one single word about which is more harmful. Please go back and read my original post. Is this what happens in here all the time? People come in and want to make a point but feel they have to argue with someone to do so? Why not just make the point. It's got nothing to do with what I was saying.


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