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lostalex 05-02-2011 12:59 PM

Anyway, i've made my point of view known, and the bigotry displayed in this thread has more than proven my point about old european ignorance. The same continent that brought the world the Spanish inquisition, the model to the world for justice... LOL

Meredith Kercher must be rolling in her grave.

Shasown 05-02-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4094004)
Anyway, i've made my point of view known, and the bigotry displayed in this thread has more than proven my point about old european ignorance. The same continent that brought the world the Spanish inquisition, the model to the world for justice... LOL

Meredith Kercher must be rolling in her grave.

The inquisition finished a long time ago, more refined methods are still being used in the Guantanamo Bay recreational(:wink:) facility.

Yes the same continent that gave birth to the US amongst lots of other countries.

You make us so proud!

lostalex 05-02-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4094021)

Yes the same continent that gave birth to the US amongst lots of other countries.

You make us so proud!

The US exists DESPITE europe, not BECAUSE of it. Immigrants came here to ESCAPE europe, not to mimic it. Get it right. I know you Brits love to revise history for yur own means, but i won't stand for it.

MTVN 05-02-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4093997)
The USA has not executed anyone in over a hundred years. You may be talking about specific states and specific cases, i dunno. WHich case would you like to discuss specifically? You should make a thread about it.

We are talking about Amanda Knox though, IN ITALY.

What are you talking about, there were 46 executions in the US in the last year alone

lostalex 05-02-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4094034)
What are you talking about, there were 46 executions in the US in the last year alone

and not a single one was executed by the US. You really need to learn about the US if you don't know the difference between a federal and state court.

MTVN 05-02-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4094038)
and not a single one was executed by the US. You really need to learn about the US if you don't know the difference between a federal and state court.

"In 1972, in Furman v. Georgia, the United States Supreme Court ruled that the death penalty was unconstitutional. It was only a five to four votes, and three of the majority votes noted taht it wasn't so much the death penalty that was the problem, but rather the system was not working under the current law.

The Furman decision left open the right of the states to bring back the death penalty after changes had been made and by 1977 the death penalty was reinstated into American law"

Clearly the death penalty is still in use in the US, that is an undeniable fact

MTVN 05-02-2011 01:21 PM

Wikipedia:

"The United States federal government (in comparison to the separate states) applies the death penalty for certain crimes: treason, espionage, federal murder, large scale drug trafficking and attempting to kill a witness, juror, or court officer in certain cases. Military law allows execution of soldiers for several crimes. Executions by the federal government have been rare compared to those by state governments. Twenty-six federal (including military) executions have been carried out since 1950. Three of those (none of them military) have occurred in the modern post-Gregg era. This list only includes those executed under federal jurisdiction. The Federal Bureau of Prisons manages the housing and execution of federal death row prisoners. As of May 14, 2010 (2010 -05-14)[update], fifty-two people are on the federal death row for men at the Federal Correctional Complex in Terre Haute, Indiana; two women located at Federal Medical Center, Carswell in Fort Worth, Texas are on the federal death row"

You're talking sh*t I'm afraid

Angus 05-02-2011 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4094038)
and not a single one was executed by the US. You really need to learn about the US if you don't know the difference between a federal and state court.


So the people who carried out the executions were NOT Americans? Talk about disingenuous! You really don't have a leg to stand on:pat:

Shasown 05-02-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4094033)
The US exists DESPITE europe, not BECAUSE of it. Immigrants came here to ESCAPE europe, not to mimic it. Get it right. I know you Brits love to revise history for yur own means, but i won't stand for it.

I knew the standard of education in schools was poor in the USA I didnt realise it was so poor. Or perhaps you just slipped through the system.

Go look up the early history of the land you so proudly but misguidely boast about, in particular look at places like Jamestown Virginia.

Another example is the victory of Yorktown, who was the Comte de Rochambeau and what was his army made up of?

The list is endless, but go on I dare you.

Oh by the way no answer to GTMO?

MTVN 05-02-2011 01:43 PM

He has conveniently just gone offline

Shasown 05-02-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4094038)
and not a single one was executed by the US. You really need to learn about the US if you don't know the difference between a federal and state court.

Really, who executed Timothy McVeigh and Juan Raul Garza?

lostalex 05-02-2011 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4094070)
I knew the standard of education in schools was poor in the USA I didnt realise it was so poor. Or perhaps you just slipped through the system.

Go look up the early history of the land you so proudly but misguidely boast about, in particular look at places like Jamestown Virginia.

And citizens of Jamestown and all other colonies (along with native americans, and slaves) rejected their ties to europe in spectacular fashion, destroying you, and sending you home with your tails between your legs.

lostalex 05-02-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4094071)
He has conveniently just gone offline

umm, wtf, why are you keeping track of my online status? That's creepy.

MTVN 05-02-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4094095)
umm, wtf, why are you keeping track of my online status? That's creepy.

Because I was wondering why you were taking so long to admit you were wrong about the US not executing anyone for 100 years. As it happens you've just ignored it instead.

And because there's a big greeen circle that lights up when you're online, not exactly hard to tell is it

Shasown 05-02-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4094092)
And citizens of Jamestown and all other colonies (along with native americans, and slaves) rejected their ties to europe in spectacular fashion, destroying you, and sending you home with your tails between your legs.

Ok let me put it another way, hopefully you will be able to understand this because I am typing it slowly for you. I am talking about the establishment of the colonies. Who founded Jamestown and why was it established?

Incidentally it ceased to exist as a settlement before 1700 quite a few years before the War of Independence. Its primarily that point that meant it provided excellent archaeological evidence about the early life of the colonies.

all other colonies? I think not, try this article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalis...can_Revolution)

Angus 05-02-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4094004)
Anyway, i've made my point of view known, and the bigotry displayed in this thread has more than proven my point about old european ignorance. The same continent that brought the world the Spanish inquisition, the model to the world for justice... LOL

Meredith Kercher must be rolling in her grave.


You really need to be careful about criticising other countries when European Immigrants to America (YOUR ancestors) were responsible for one of the most disgraceful genocides in history - that of the native American Indians. And how about Vietnam? Hardly covered yourselves in glory there did you?So get off your indignant, moral high horse and stop playing the race card - the last resort of someone on a losing argument:bored:

The only reason Meredith Kercher will be rolling in her grave is if that murdering bitch is released, or has her sentence reduced.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 05-02-2011 03:40 PM

why does every thread turn into an argument about america :bored:

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lostalex 05-02-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott (Post 4094185)
why does every thread turn into an argument about america :bored:

http://i53.tinypic.com/bjel3a.gif

ferr realzzzz. it's boring now.

lostalex 05-02-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 4094179)
The only reason Meredith Kercher will be rolling in her grave is if that murdering bitch is released, or has her sentence reduced.

I disagree, and i think i've made that known, so let's stop bickering. We disagree. ENUF.

MTVN 05-02-2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4094195)
ferr realzzzz. it's boring now.

What the hell are you on about, you're the one who cant enter a thread without proclaiming how great and superior all things American are

Marsh. 05-02-2011 04:39 PM

Is somebody suggesting Amanda Knox is innocent? I hope that's not what the film is going to play. Knox should rot in hell, murdering bitch.

And how many more threads are there going to be with lostalex having an argument about America?


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