It really doesnt bother me but I can see why people are complaining.

Merged. Please don't post multiple threads about the same thing

instead of showing roulette all night they could have seriously put on some live feed

We need to keep pestering them until they confirm it for the main series at least. I posted this in the comments.

Will be an awful thing to watch without LF. People would lose interest very very fast. Don't get why they don't just put it on 5* with all the crap they have on there anyway :bored:

This will pretty much kill BB

what is the point in them having all the cameras and under 24 hour surveillance if there is no live feed

its just stupid and channel 5 are a joke

The likelihood is that they are not on 24 hours.

They only need 50 minutes of footage, easier just to condense 3 or 4 hours of shooting than to trawl through 24 hours of pap and snoring!:hugesmile:

Twats.

Why cant they give us at least nightly feed? :(

By the time the feed would be on air they probably would just be the snoring to watch.

Interesting the live feed is also edited if you think about how it. They get to pick which camera we see on the live feed and thus who we are watching, who we are listening and what we are allowed to hear etc.... It is hardly an uncensored view of the house and what goes on inside. Then there is a time delay of 15 minute to 30 minutes and no clocks in the house, which means they could without the audience knowing show any footage they like if something big is going off.

I agree the live feed would be good for those that want it and I would like Channel 5 to come clean as to why they are not providing one, but at the end of the day it is probably the only show that has had a live feed in recent years. You don't see the get me out of here fans saying they want 24/7 coverage or they will stop watching!

There are some decent conversations to tune into and mischief if were lucky some nights. They could encourage HMs to stay up with more 24 hour tasks too.

I agree they they hold all power on what we see but I really dont think theyd skip something essential.

The forum is so dead compared to last year, we need some live feed!

I think they're lying, of course they are working on getting it for BB12, they probably just want to make it seem like its not coming back so when it does all the fans love Ch5...

Getting the house mates to stay up through the night works in the main BB but with the celebrity BB, I think they would be pointing at their contracts. I know what you are saying about the late night feed, and I know stuff happens in the wee hours but is that enough for them to lose the revenue though losing their gambling stuff they are probably contracted to show? As fans of the show I know we would say yes, but they must think differently.

I have known them to miss stuff in the past especially when they don't think they getting much for the highlights show or at the start when they are looking for drama and it is all lets be best friends.

I have always thought if we are going to have a live feed at all we need cameras to pick from like they use to do when I watched the US feed years ago on realplayer. They had 4 different views of the house and you just followed the house mates you were interested in, plus an interactive message box.

I know what you mean about the forum being dead without the feed when show isn't on air. It is fun talking about stuff on the feed and it can be exciting breaking the news to TiBB as it happens, but at least we have Big Brother on the air again. If the channel hadn't taken it then that could have been the end of that and the place would be even quieter than it is now.

I wouldn't hold your breath. I think there is more behind why they won't give us the feed than we know. It could be a mixture of reasons including the technical side of the things, the computing infrastructure and the staffing of the show especially.

If they could just provide a feed at a drop of a hat they would have done it by now. They can't and I just wish they would be honest and explain why.

I'm really dissapointed with CH5. :(

I was willing to watch CBB without live feed and campaign in hope that BB12 would have LF.
Admittedly you cannot get a 100% accurate picture of HM's with the LF but the whole point of the feed was to be able get to know the housemates better and interact on a deeper level. Watching CBB at present and I cannot even feel like I know any of the HM's , even on a superficial level. This new format is not working for me and from other FM's I see similar feelings and comments.

I'll stay with CBB for now but I won't be voting and when BB12 screens I'll give it a go but I cannot in all honesty say I will stick with it.

CH5 really have let the fans down and I hope they are happy with the show they have at present but I can see that the ratings may well slip very quickly.

Yeah, it we think it's hard knowing them without LF now, gonna be 10X harder with the normal series. Plus it's a lot longer so it will just become more fustrating if it seems scripted

I agree it is harder to know them and it takes longer to get to know, especially with the shorter CBB format, but with the long BB format there are still hours and hours of coverage.

Playing devils advocate for a second, in 12 weeks you will end up watching over 80 hours of television. That is about 20 hours less than watching Eastenders for a year. It's not like you don't know the characters in Eastenders and people don't demand a live feed of the soaps!

Guess it depends if they choose any "stars" of the show and concentrate on them if you get me. Like BB11 with John and Josie, but luckily we had LF then lol

That's true, I basically just watched the highlights in BB11 but I still felt I knew the housemates pretty well

How much of getting to know them did you get from the forums,news articles online or newspapers? its really shortsighted to say that because so much of the BB chatter came from the live feed.

Are people really willing to dumb down to the point where they accept that a housemate must of packed a wedding dress in their suitcase? or is it more logical that a daily meeting was held with producers and the people in there and it was suggested to them?

I watched the whole of BB11 (just the highlights shows) without the forum. I don't buy newspapers and I can't remember reading them on line as I get most of my news from the BBC website or BBC 5 live. I never felt I didn't know the people in the house. Yes it might have taken longer to get to know them but it didn't make me feel disappointed and I didn't know their characters.

Yes the live feed generates a lot of chatter and banter on here during the day, but the site is at it's busiest when the highlights show is on, because that is what most people watch.

You also have to remember that Channel 5 will know uptake of the live feed from Channel 4. They will have data on how many people brought into the feed and how many people watched it and when. They will then have weighed the income against the cost of providing the service. If there is no clear profit there is no feed.

Now I why I want Channel 5 to come clean is that there is probably a simple answer to why they are not providing it. I still think that providing a live feed would require investment in networking infrastructure that isn't in place. The cost of investment makes it uneconomic to provide the feed when the company has little use for it after BB has come off the air. If this is the case and they come clean then other companies who have the networking infrastructure already in place might come forward to provide the feed for them at a price, however they won't while Channel 5 is in cover up mode.

The live feed infrastructure was provided by an outsourced company and had an uptake of 86,000 people which generated an income of over £1 million and was confirmed by channel 4 to have generated a profit.
If you phone C5 and ask them they will tell you that its because they want to take the show in a different direction and that doesnt include a live feed.
So from what we have seen so far that direction must mean having meetings with the housemates and guiding them into what they want to happen.
Thats about as far from the spirit of big brother that you can get its trashy and false.
Im not revelling in the state of the show i feel gutted.

I agree with all of this. I never watched live feed and I honestly didn't realise how much stuff I picked up only from the forum. You've only got to see how the forum's died down to realise not having live feed has had a really negative impact. If they don't bring it back for the non-celeb BB, I think it'll be the death knell for the whole show.

One can see from the amount of new topics being posted that this so-called Social Media experiment has failed miserably. there SHOULD be about, at least, 150 pages by now, instead we have Page 1 which contains posts timed at 11 pm LAST NIGHT and still on the front page!

ive come to agreement with myself were definstley nit going to get live feed the rateimgs are the best channel 5 have ever had, they dont need live feed, makes me sooo angry thought cause i thought we'd get the works and as much ive feed as we wanted its just a shame really, its hurt me more knowing the show that i love is like being raped by channel 5 :bawling: