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InOne 29-08-2011 04:04 PM

They seem asexual to me

Stu 29-08-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 4515095)
I do think envy of success, measured in money terms, is a factor. The other factor is envy of the attention they get from girls in the age group which may the target of the envier - if you get my drift! ;)

I.e. much the same as hatred of Justin Bieber.

Do you hang pictures of him on the inside of your wardrobe too?

Niamh. 29-08-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 4515095)
I do think envy of success, measured in money terms, is a factor. The other factor is envy of the attention they get from girls in the age group which may the target of the envier - if you get my drift! ;)

I.e. much the same as hatred of Justin Bieber.

I like Jedward but this is a weak argument. I find it very hard to believe that that's the reason why people don't like Jedward. As much as I like them, I can see why people would find them annoying.

Vicky. 29-08-2011 04:07 PM

Why can noone ever dislike someone without being jealous?

Its a ridiculous argument that pops up year after year. Except usually its 'everyone who dislikes *insert random pretty but bitchy girls name here* is jealous'

CaudleHalbard 29-08-2011 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4515099)
Do you hang pictures of him on the inside of your wardrobe too?

No, they're on the outside! :joker: (Not bothered about JB one way or the other actually).

But, I will bet that the great majority of those who dislike Jedward also dislike Justin Bieber. ;)

fingers 29-08-2011 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4515101)
I like Jedward but this is a weak argument. I find it very hard to believe that that's the reason why people don't like Jedward. As much as I like them, I can see why people would find them annoying.

They're Irish, NO?:hugesmile:

Stu 29-08-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 4515103)
No, they're on the outside! :joker: (Not bothered about JB one way or the other actually).

But, I will bet that the great majority of those who dislike Jedward also dislike Justin Bieber. ;)

Grown adults with developed taste?

Sure.

Niamh. 29-08-2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 4515104)
They're Irish, NO?:hugesmile:

Are you suggesting that's the only reason I like them?

Zippy 29-08-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4515101)
I like Jedward but this is a weak argument. I find it very hard to believe that that's the reason why people don't like Jedward. As much as I like them, I can see why people would find them annoying.

See, this is why I love Niamh

she at least views things from different perspectives. Anybody who can't see why many would find them annoying must be seriously obsessed or deluded.

fingers 29-08-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4515108)
Are you suggesting that's the only reason I like them?

'twas merely a random thought!:wavey:

Niamh. 29-08-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4515102)
Why can noone ever dislike someone without being jealous?

Its a ridiculous argument that pops up year after year. Except usually its 'everyone who dislikes *insert random pretty but bitchy girls name here* is jealous'

YES! Pisses me off almost as much as "You only like *Insert Irish persons name here* because they're Irish."

fingers 29-08-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4515116)
YES! Pisses me off almost as much as "You only like *Insert Irish persons name here* because they're Irish."

I didn't SAY that!:joker:

Vicky. 29-08-2011 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4515116)
YES! Pisses me off almost as much as "You only like *Insert Irish persons name here* because they're Irish."

Indeed.

And all the, for example 'all welsh people must vote for glyn'

As if people vote based just on where they come from. And if they do, its sad :bored:

Niamh. 29-08-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 4515122)
I didn't SAY that!:joker:

You didn't have to say it, the implication was there :nono:

InOne 29-08-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4515116)
YES! Pisses me off almost as much as "You only like *Insert Irish persons name here* because they're Irish."

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DwIlvvOhcK...tingIrish.jpeg

Vicky. 29-08-2011 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4515126)

:laugh2:

fingers 29-08-2011 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4515125)
You didn't have to say it, the implication was there :nono:

That's different, (true though)

Anyway I like Johnny Logan!:joker:

Stu 29-08-2011 04:15 PM

At least Logan won us Eurovision. That man is a national treasure.

Niamh. 29-08-2011 04:17 PM

Attention, Attention : I DON'T LIKE JOHNNY LOGAN

Now, stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

CaudleHalbard 29-08-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4515107)
Grown adults with developed taste?

Oh really? ;) The chap who threw eggs at JB at a recent concert was 17 as I recall.

Somehow both Jedward and Bieber make certain groups (mainly young/youngish males) feel threatened in some way. I have suggested a couple of types of envy: it may not be quite the right word but perhaps more a feeling of inadequacy, viz. "Why should those two be getting so much attention and money when I don't and I'm about the same age as them... etc".

Yes, Jedward can be annoying - nobody can doubt that. But there people with FAR more annoying traits and we don't seem to get quite as worked up about it, do we? :)

fingers 29-08-2011 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4515139)
At least Logan won us Eurovision. That man is a national treasure.

Wasn't staging the following year's Eurovision the start of the downward spiral into bankruptcy?:joker:

Stu 29-08-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 4515150)
Wasn't staging the following year's Eurovision the start of the downward spiral into bankruptcy?:joker:

The last time we hosted it was in 1997 before the Celtic Tiger economy ever really took off so ... no?

InOne 29-08-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 4515147)
Oh really? ;) The chap who threw eggs at JB at a recent concert was 17 as I recall.

Somehow both Jedward and Bieber make certain groups (mainly young/youngish males) feel threatened in some way. I have suggested a couple of types of envy: it may not be quite the right word but perhaps more a feeling of inadequacy, viz. "Why should those two be getting so much attention and money when I don't and I'm about the same age as them... etc".

Yes, Jedward can be annoying - nobody can doubt that. But there people with FAR more annoying traits and we don't seem to get quite as worked up about it, do we? :)

You seem to be looking far too deep into things :joker:

People don't like them, there doesn't have to be much of a reason behind it

http://pichars.org/store/1905_original_0ANd1.

Vicky. 29-08-2011 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 4515147)
Somehow both Jedward and Bieber make certain groups (mainly young/youngish males) feel threatened in some way.

In your opinion. In reality, its probably just a case of them disliking them.

I dont get the Bieber hate tbh...but each to their own.

I can totally understand it with jedward though at the minute...its not like they are just getting on with their life, doing concerts etc like Bieber does, they have put themselves forward for scrutiny, and are getting it. But some people seem unable to accept the fact that others might just dislike them because they are acting like little brats, instead insisting that there must be an element of envy there.

Zippy 29-08-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 4515147)
Oh really? ;) The chap who threw eggs at JB at a recent concert was 17 as I recall.

Somehow both Jedward and Bieber make certain groups (mainly young/youngish males) feel threatened in some way. I have suggested a couple of types of envy: it may not be quite the right word but perhaps more a feeling of inadequacy, viz. "Why should those two be getting so much attention and money when I don't and I'm about the same age as them... etc".

Yes, Jedward can be annoying - nobody can doubt that. But there people with FAR more annoying traits and we don't seem to get quite as worked up about it, do we? :)

jesus christ hold me back!

has it occured to you that we just dont find them remotely interesting or entertaining and resent them being shoved in our face?

I envy people with TALENT. Not lucky chancers.

Bieber hysterical type fame(and Jedward are not in his league, frankly) is my worst nightmare so I most certainly do not envy it!


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