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Vicky. 15-09-2011 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4563461)
Didnt get much sleep then?
I got a bit more sleep than I would have got had he been skinny :tongue:

arista 15-09-2011 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan. (Post 4563452)
Well I kow I comfort eat a lot and dont really exercise a great deal bar karate. But IMO to say that the solution is to make fun of them is disgusting.

Example. "Naturally" people aren't supposed to be gay, single, anorexic or have plastic surgery. But should we take the piss out of them until THEY change.

I don't have a problem with fatty jokes. But it shouldnt be so that we learn.

IMO it's no better than that MP who said fat people like James cordon and Dawn French could not be allowed on tv as it normalises obesity.

Yes Fat Cocky James was attacked at a Award show
as well.

Ryan. 15-09-2011 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 4563464)
We are all different shapes and sizes,you'de think by now we would have learnt to accept each other whatever our differences and they say the human race is the most intelligent,lol,I think not.
This.

Suze 15-09-2011 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 4563464)
We are all different shapes and sizes,you'de think by now we would have learnt to accept each other whatever our differences and they say the human race is the most intelligent,lol,I think not.
I kind of agree with you, but I think some people are just crying out for help and a bit of compassion, as in some obese people, and they should be given that rather than subjected to ridicule, as what does it say about some of us who do the ridiculing otherwise :(

CharlieO 15-09-2011 04:46 PM
We do accept each other, we just don't think its the best option. No one in western society really truly wants to be fat so why make it out to be ok.

Vicky. 15-09-2011 04:47 PM
Also, you dont always get overweight from eating too much(or having a medical problem).

Sometimes its just easting the wrong stuff. If you have a lot of processed crap in your diet, then you are more likely to be overweight.

I know this because of when I was on the dole. I put on about 2 stone in a few months because I couldnt afford to buy the fresh stuff I used to buy...instead making do with stuff like bags of chicken nuggets etc. I actually ate quite a bit less food, but because of the **** quality of it, I put weight on.

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan. (Post 4563452)
Well I kow I comfort eat a lot and dont really exercise a great deal bar karate. But IMO to say that the solution is to make fun of them is disgusting.

Example. "Naturally" people aren't supposed to be gay, single, anorexic or have plastic surgery. But should we take the piss out of them until THEY change.

I don't have a problem with fatty jokes. But it shouldnt be so that we learn.

IMO it's no better than that MP who said fat people like James cordon and Dawn French could not be allowed on tv as it normalises obesity.
You seriously think that being gay is unnatural? You don't think that some people are simply borne to prefer their own sex?

You think many anorexics choose to be so ...... many stem not from a natural or unnatural desire: but due to a whole host of psychological reasons arisen by situations / environmental factors which may have been forced upon them.

I'm sorry to say this as I don't do it very often, but for you to say what you have in these respects, has to be one of the most ignorant things I have read for a long time.

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4563461)
Didnt get much sleep then?
Au contraire; I'd say she probably got a good sleep !!

Vicky. 15-09-2011 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4563493)
You think many anorexics choose to be so ...... many stem not from a natural or unnatural desire: but due to a whole host of psychological reasons arisen by situations / environmental factors which may have been forced upon them.
I also think this. maybe not in the later stages (IE. when they are going to die if they dont eat, I do believe that after a few months or so the anorexia takes over) but certainly in the early stages.

Ryan. 15-09-2011 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4563493)
You seriously think that being gay is unnatural? You don't think that some people are simply borne to not prefer their own sex?

You think many anorexics choose to be so ...... many stem not from a natural or unnatural desire: but due to a whole host of psychological reasons arisen by situations / environmental factors which may have been forced upon them.

I'm sorry to say this as I don't do it very often, but for you to say what you have in these respects, has to be one of the most ignorant things I have read for a long time.
I had an anorexic cousin asshole. And a gay friend. So dont tell me that I'm ignorant.

Of course people are born gay. But "naturally" they cannot reproduce. If nature had designed all people to be gay. Well, they're be no people.

And don't seriously try to claim anorexia is natural. Certainly not hierarchy fault, but equally as emotionally based as over eating can be.

Kazanne 15-09-2011 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieO (Post 4563487)
We do accept each other, we just don't think its the best option. No one in western society really truly wants to be fat so why make it out to be ok.
Sorry but we obviously do NOT accept it,hence fat people being ridiculed,and you cannot talk for everyone in the Western world,it is up to each individual what they do with their bodies so who are we to tell them WE do not like their option to be bigger,they have enough information and help to do something about it if they want to,the only reason they are not happy as you say is simply because the rest of society shuns it and takes the pee,when sometimes it is not even an overeating problem.Live and let live I say.

Shasown 15-09-2011 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4563465)
I got a bit more sleep than I would have got had he been skinny :tongue:
About an hour then? ;)

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan. (Post 4563512)
I had an anorexic sister asshole. And a gay friend. So dont tell me that I'm ignorant.

Of course people are born gay. But "naturally" they cannot reproduce. If nature had designed all people to be gay. Well, they're be no people.

And don't seriously try to claim anorexia is natural. Certainly not hierarchy fault, but equally as emotionally based as over eating can be.
Your sister was called "Asshole". ?

Anne might have been a nicer name, but hey: there you go.

I think you will find that it is not only gays who cannot reproduce naturally. Many hetro men and woman fall into the same bracket. Should they be regarded as unnatural?

Shasown 15-09-2011 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan. (Post 4563512)
I had an anorexic cousin asshole. And a gay friend. So dont tell me that I'm ignorant.

Of course people are born gay. But "naturally" they cannot reproduce. If nature had designed all people to be gay. Well, they're be no people.

And don't seriously try to claim anorexia is natural. Certainly not hierarchy fault, but equally as emotionally based as over eating can be.
There is always one isnt there?

Vicky. 15-09-2011 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4563523)
About an hour then? ;)
LOL. You know me too well :wink:

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4563528)
There is always one isnt there?
What assholes? I'm pretty chuffed with my one ...... I'd be in a helluva state without it, that's for sure.

Shasown 15-09-2011 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan. (Post 4563512)
I had an anorexic cousin asshole. And a gay friend. So dont tell me that I'm ignorant.

Of course people are born gay. But "naturally" they cannot reproduce. If nature had designed all people to be gay. Well, they're be no people.

And don't seriously try to claim anorexia is natural. Certainly not hierarchy fault, but equally as emotionally based as over eating can be.
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4563526)
Your sister was called "Asshole". ?

Anne might have been a nicer name, but hey: there you go.

I think you will find that it is not only gays who cannot reproduce naturally. Many hetro men and woman fall into the same bracket. Should they be regarded as unnatural?
I think you will find most Gays can reproduce naturally, unless they have an underlying fertility problem.

Its shoe fetists I feel most sorry for. They will probably never know whats its like to have their own baby mocassin.

Ryan. 15-09-2011 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4563528)
There is always one isnt there?
Lol tbh I really find fatty jokes funny so I'm not even sure why I'm arguing lol

Edit: it was my cousin btw, not sure why I said sister. But yea, my point still stands.

Marc 15-09-2011 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4563363)
so basically he has a book to promote and said something a bit contentious. k. :idc:

-is fat; doesn't particularly care that much; would probably lose weight if I could afford to go on a specific diet/join a gym; will probably lose a bit anyway with uni budgets :laugh:-
You definitely will :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4563370)
To me..being really underweight is just as disgusting as being really overweight. But being a walking skeleton is more accepted by society.
That's a matter of opinion though, I don't have the right to say who is and who isn't accepted in society but I see skinny people, like really badly skinny and it has the same effect on me than overweight people do.

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4563542)
I think you will find most Gays can reproduce naturally, unless they have an underlying fertility problem.
.
You KNOW what I mean. *scud*



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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4563542)
Its shoe fetists I feel most sorry for. They will probably never know whats its like to have their own baby mocassin.
:joker:

Shasown 15-09-2011 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4563538)
What assholes? I'm pretty chuffed with my one ...... I'd be in a helluva state without it, that's for sure.
No, someone in a thread who doesnt understand the point somene else is trying to make and then decides to throw out insults instead of explanations.

Funny thing is I am always there, so it must be my fault, I take 100% responsibility for everything in my reality.

How very Ho'oponopono eh?

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan. (Post 4563543)
Lol tbh I really find fatty jokes funny so I'm not even sure why I'm arguing lol

Edit: it was my cousin btw, not sure why I said sister. But yea, my point still stands.

Possibly because when people aint' telling the truth, they naturally trip themselves up.

Must be the mocassins.

Pyramid* 15-09-2011 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4563550)
No, someone in a thread who doesnt understand the point somene else is trying to make and then decides to throw out insults instead of explanations.

Funny thing is I am always there, so it must be my fault, I take 100% responsibility for everything in my reality.

How very Ho'oponopono eh?
I KNOW ;) ........ t'was a little bit of y'on banter stuff of the humorous variety.

CharlieO 15-09-2011 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4563526)
Your sister was called "Asshole". ?

Anne might have been a nicer name, but hey: there you go.

I think you will find that it is not only gays who cannot reproduce naturally. Many hetro men and woman fall into the same bracket. Should they be regarded as unnatural?
:joker::joker:

Ryan. 15-09-2011 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4563554)
Possibly because when people aint' telling the truth, they naturally trip themselves up.

Must be the mocassins.
Ok, hello pyramid! I'm going to leave this thread now because apparently on this forum you operate a policy of "agree with us or **** off". It been nice having the debate though!


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