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I hear that Miss Knox changed planes in London

Someone dropped the ball

She is accused of murdering a British national in many people's eyes. Why could our British police have not arrested her here in London? Even if it happens abroad, I always thought you could be tried for the murder of a British national here in the UK?

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Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 4621458)

Yeah I'm sure the Italians and the Americans would just love that

Edit - actually a lot of Italians probably would :laugh: Not the Americans though

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Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 4621458)

She was cleared and the evidence against her was weak at best, why waste money persecuting someone who has already been cleared of a crime? Just because of some irrational people who haven't been following the case has assumed her guilty regardless?

They should put their efforts into finding the real killer instead of punsihing innocent parties just so they can close the case quickly. Going after Knox now is a waste of time and resources.

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4618825)

I can't believe that both were released on account of the evidence not being strong enough. From what I've read its quite clear that at least one of them did do it. And if they didn't would easily have information on who it would be.

It annoys me when this happens, there was sufficient evidence when they were originally sentenced. Sickened me when I heard the reporter say "they'll be given a hero's welcome back in the States". Disgusting.

Then you obvious having been reading the right material. The drifter's dna was found inside the victim for god's sake, not to mention his blood on the walls, and his dna on the knife. Amanda had nothing to do with any of it.

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4619842)

If she lives .....

Amanda is seen as innocent in America. She's safe.

Guede was caught leaving the country after she was killed. The guy is as guilty as the day is long.

Britain just hates Amanda because she's American. Anyone who has studied the case knows that there is no way she did it. Many have read salacious material that was debunked years ago. She was interrogated for 54 hours straight, with no lawyer, and by police who weren't fluent in English, and they wouldn't allow her anything to drink for hours. Britain better be careful, because if they even attempt going after this girl, it's going to backfire, and America will act accordingly.

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Originally Posted by letmein (Post 4621554)

Amanda is seen as innocent in America. She's safe.

Guede was caught leaving the country after she was killed. The guy is as guilty as the day is long.

Britain just hates Amanda because she's American. Anyone who has studied the case knows that there is no way she did it. Many have read salacious material that was debunked years ago. She was interrogated for 54 hours straight, with no lawyer, and by police who weren't fluent in English, and they wouldn't allow her anything to drink for hours. Britain better be careful, because if they even attempt going after this girl, it's going to backfire, and America will act accordingly.

:rolleyes: And what are you basing that on? Most people in this thread have been supportive of Knox, as has a lot of the British press

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Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 4621458)

Was accused, she's a free woman and can do what she likes.

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Originally Posted by letmein (Post 4621554)

Amanda is seen as innocent in America. She's safe.

Nobody's safe in the USA - some prominent assassinations :

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Elijah P. Lovejoy (1837), editor of an abolitionist newspaper, the "Alton Observer", by a mob of pro-slavery advocates.
James Strang (1856), Michigan State Representative and leader of the Strangite Church.
Abraham Lincoln (1865), 16th President of the United States.
James A. Garfield (1881), 20th President of the United States.
David Hennessy (1890), Police Chief of New Orleans.
Samuel Newitt Wood (1891), Kansas Legislator and Senator.
Carter Harrison (1893), Mayor of Chicago.
William Goebel (1900), governor of Kentucky.
William McKinley (1901), 25th President of the United States.
Don Mellett (1926), newspaper editor and campaigner against organized crime.
Anton Cermak (1931), Mayor of Chicago.
Huey Long (1935), U.S. Senator, Louisiana.
Walter Liggett (1935), Minnesota newspaper editor.
Carlo Tresca (1943), anarchist organizer.
Curtis Chillingworth (1955), a Florida judge.
John F. Kennedy (1963), 35th President of the United States.
Medgar Evers (1963 June 12), U.S. civil rights activist.[1]
Malcolm X (1965 February 21), black Muslim leader, killed in a Manhattan banquet room as he began a speech.
George Lincoln Rockwell (1967), founder of the American Nazi Party.
Martin Luther King, Jr. (1968 April 4), U.S. civil rights activist.[1]
Robert F. Kennedy (1968), leading presidential candidate in the 1968 presidential election
Fred Hampton (1969), Deputy Chairman of the Illinois chapter of the Black Panther Party.
Dan Mitrione (1970), FBI agent and torture expert, killed by the guerrilla movement Tupamaros.
Marcus Foster (1973), School District Superintendent in Oakland CA, killed by members of the Symbionese Liberation Army.
Don Bolles (1976), Investigative reporter for Arizona Republic, killed in car bomb, Max Dunlap and James Robison convicted, alleged Mafia ties.
Orlando Letelier (1976), Chilean ambassador to the United States under the administration of Salvador Allende.
George Moscone (1978, November 27) Mayor of San Francisco, shot and killed by Dan White in San Francisco City Hall.
Harvey Milk (1978, November 27) San Francisco city supervisor, shot and killed by Dan White in San Francisco City Hall.
John Lennon (1980 December 8), British musician, member of The Beatles, shot and killed by Mark David Chapman.
Alan Berg (1984), radio talk-show host, killed by Neo-nazis.
Henry Liu (1984), Taiwanese-American writer, allegedly killed by Kuomintang agents.
Alex Odeh (1985), Arab anti-discrimination group leader, killed when bomb exploded in his Santa Ana, California office.
Alejandro González Malavé (1986), famous undercover policeman, in Bayamón, Puerto Rico.
Meir David Kahane (1990), Member of the Israeli Knesset, Founder of the JDL and the Kach Party, Zionist
Ioan P. Culianu (1991), Romanian historian of religion, culture, and ideas, professor at the University of Chicago, assassinated there in Swift Hall, apparently for his political writings.
David Gunn (1993), abortion doctor.
John Britton (1994), abortion doctor.
Selena Quintanilla (1995), tex-mex singer assassinated by Yolanda Saldivar, her fan club's president.
Barnett Slepian (1998), abortion doctor.
Thomas C. Wales (2001), federal prosecutor and gun control advocate.
Chauncey Bailey (2007), Oakland Tribune journalist.
Bill Gwatney (2008), Chairman of The Arkansas Democratic Party
George Tiller (2009), late-term abortion doctor, shot as he ushered at his church.
John M. Roll (2011), federal judge in Arizona

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...sinated_people

..... and, of course, on 9 Jan 2011, congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head and six people were killed .....

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content...1/16082791.jpg

Ch5 Matt Wright is front page today
he says this morning it was bad graphics
on his show. He did not mean sleep with her, he claims.

Matt has gone a bit far there but generally I think he's quite good as a chat show host

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4622482)

Nobody's safe in the USA - some prominent assassinations :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...sinated_people

..... and, of course, on 9 Jan 2011, congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head and six people were killed .....

You're being overdramatic. Knox is going to pretty much get a hero's welcome in America, from what I remember the media was pretty much championing her all the way. She'll fade from the spotlight in a few weeks time and that'll be the last we hear from her.

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4618678)

Here's an interesting piece, giving 5 reasons as to why she might be guilty and 5 for why she might be innocent: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...asons-why.html

Got to say the 5 reasons for her being guilty seem more convincing to me

Don't know much about the case, but reading that, I would lean much more towards her being guilty. Especially for reason No.1 an innocent person doesn't make up a story and accuse someone else, they just tell the truth.

I feel so sad for Meredith's family.....to have to face what happened to her......and that the person/people responsible will probably never be caught and punished.

In respect of the Media coverage, here we have 2 people

Knox & Sollecito

both convicted of the same crime, receiving the same sentence Knox 26yrs Sollecito 25yrs, freed by the same court on the same day, yet all the media coverage in the UK has been on Knox.

I just find that a bit wrong!:nono:

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 4623746)

Some US citizens just don't like "heroes" and select them as "targets" ..... :eek:

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4623925)

Some US citizens just don't like "heroes" and select them as "targets" ..... :eek:

Yeah but she's gonna have so much money, she'll fade into the background after she sets herself up for life.

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Originally Posted by Cromwell1900 (Post 4623844)

I'm sure Sollecito isn't complaining! Or did you mean it's unfair on Knox?

On a few levels really.

A. Isn't the Media suppose to be imparcial, so as to best deliver the truth.
I mean Knox is a good looking chick is British Media doing a "C5 Big Brother Edit" and concentrating on delivering an "interesting" story rather than delivering us facts

B. If the Italian Media was as bad how could the 2, actually yes Knox..... possibly get a fair trial in the first place given italian Juries are not required to be isolated from the Media and are allowed to watch anything they like.

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Originally Posted by Eoin (Post 4623933)

Yeah but she's gonna have so much money, she'll fade into the background after she sets herself up for life.

People with "so much money" never "fade into the background" - they just want more money and more fame - after the media rights have been settled, Knox plans to set up an Amnesty International-style organisation fighting for wrongly convicted prisoners - that's hardly going 'low-profile' ..... no doubt she'll be 'hob-nobbing' with the likes of Annie Lennox, Elton John, Bono, Brad Pitt, Bill Clinton, Angelina Jolie, George Clooney and Scarlett Johansson ..... ;)

You should be a journalist Omah, you've got a flair for dramatics :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 4624195)

You should be a journalist Omah, you've got a flair for dramatics :laugh:

Mark my words ..... :evilgrin:

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4619931)

It's about time. I think Rudy Guede did this alone, he only pointed to Knox and Rafelle to save his own skin and also because italian prosecuters put pressure on him. He's also got a history of knife crime before. He assualted another women after he broke in and threated her with a knife before. Amanda and Rafelle had no prior connection to crime at all.

Amanda has suffered everyone's worst nightmare, her friends and family have suffered as well. Her parents lost their house in order to pay for her lawyers. If Amanda is able to make some money, and buy her parents a new house, i see nothing wrong with that, and also it's important she tells her story so that hopefully she can help other people in similar positions who face discrimination in foreign countries and don't get a fair trial.

What about the barman who Amanda Knox unfairly accused of being involved? He went through hell and had his life turned upside down because of that woman. Turned out he was just a random bloke she dragged in to save her own skin.

Whether she's innocent or not she's proven herself throughout the trial to be one hell of a compulsive liar. Something does not add up with her.

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4619931)

who face discrimination in foreign countries

To an extent I agree with this. With all these kinds of cases I always get the feeling (in this case the Italians) the country involved just think sod it, and don't give it their full attention because the people involved aren't natives.

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4625483)

Whether she's innocent or not she's proven herself throughout the trial to be one hell of a compulsive liar. Something does not add up with her.

My feeling entirely ..... she is definitely :suspect:

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Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 4623471)

Matt has gone a bit far there but generally I think he's quite good as a chat show host

On the few occasions I've watched the show, Matthew Wright irritates me beyond belief. At first it was his sense of humour and how he went on and on and on about a joke if he thought it was funny. But then I saw his petty and arrogant streak when he'd cut callers off the phone if he didn't agree with their opinion.

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Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 4621458)

If Amanda was tried in the UK instead of Italy, with all the same evidence in the Italian trial, she never would have been convicted in the first place in the UK. All UK legal experts have said that.