We have no way of knowing that.

And again, what type of footage we put value on is pretty subjective.

Alex won't win. The bookies usually get BB winners wrong. Jedward were odds-on faves for CBB8.

Not really, playing dumb and not taking sides should not make you popular, but sadly on these shows it does, she will win.

But at least shes a step up from the awful Josie.

I don't value any of those things you mentioned when talking about a deserving winner, yet still don't think Alex deserves to win. You were implying a lot about the people who don't believe Alex has justified being odds on favourite.

A thought has occurred to me: I wonder if the "typical" BB voter identifies quite strongly with Alex.

I.e. a bit of a minger with a low supply of brain cells? :D

The what is it you DO value in a winner?

What do they have to do to justify their winning, to you?

Aaron is the perfect example of someone I believe is a deserving winner. Someone I really like as a person, who also contributes a lot to the series, who brings entertainment directly and indirectly on a regular basis.

I'm not going to list character traits I think are valuable as that doesn't really matter, it's how they are overall and what they bring to the show.

Was I not clear enough? I expected people to know that I obviously meant on the HL shows, that we have been shown...how on earth would I know how much footage all together she has had?!

I like her better than Josie , but without Tom to bounce off, she'd go unnoticed in the house.

Vicky, we are just talking, no need for the 'was I not clear enough' type snarkyness.

I wasn't attacking you in any way, and I don't really udnerstand the tone of your response, but nm.

So you look for the manipulative passive aggressive user with a game plan type for your entertainment then?

ok, thats fair anough, each to their own. I can quite enjoy that style of HM as well tbh and glad there is always at least one of them in there.

I wouldnt want someone like that to win though.

Exactly :worship::flowers:

Sorry, I just really cant see how anyone could have possibly took my post to mean anything different to what I meant it to mean :S

Its quite obvious that I base what I say on what we HAVE seen(be that on the c5 site, the HLs, or BBOTS), not what footage there might be that we havent seen :)

I think you have made your opinion quite clear in numerous posts you don't like Alex...it's not about what YOU don't like, this show is about what the public like...and the public do like Alex...everyone is entitled to their opinion but when it gets shoved down your throat it's like yesterday's news!!! Please give it a rest...You don't see me slating other housemates so have a little compassion at least!!

Oh here we go the Mother of the beast running her mouth i wondered how long it would take.. the public will soon realise your daughter is nothing more then a beastly bore and she will packing her suitcase and running back to you and somewhere in Lordsville a young man by the name of Aaron is spending his big brother winnings on a nice car

I think you need to grow up!! That's all I have to say on the matter!!

Your daughter needs to grow up and stop sitting on the fence and that is all i have to say on the matter!!

Alex's mum if you want to get one over on Novo then phone this number

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That is all I have to say on the matter!!

With all due respect here...if you sign up to a big brother forum, you have to expect that some people will have negative opinions on your daughter, same as people will have negative opinions on any housemate. And I really dont think its your place to tell someone to 'give it a rest' just because they voice their opinions on multiple threads.

The forum would be a really boring place if we all just were happy and positive about the housemates we liked and ignored everything else.

Other forum users tell others to 'give it a rest' using that or other words ad nauseum Vicky.

I agree that no one should get special priviledge, but also no one should get special restrictions. It is her 'place' as much as it is anyone else's (who don't get pulled up by mods for it).

With all due respect.

You have to wonder if Alex is still in there, she never does anything in there.

They must give her screen time to Jay.

I don't think any of them deserve it. Most undeserving lot of HMs ever IMO. Not saying the shows rubbish. Just the HMs are pretty undeserving.

Don't get into it, ignore the trolls. Get your victory when she walks out of there winner :)

Of course she should be favourite!!!...She's a lovely lass!!

no shes my least favourite girl, she hasnt done anything except be friends with tom who i also dislike