Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4734261)

But Aaron not mentioning it is precisely the reason why there's a negative atmosphere, it's because of his refusal to try and talk about the whole thing, he might not be outward and expressive with his anger but it's always there bubbling underneath the surface and that creates an uncomfortable living situation.

We all say things when we're pissed off in the heat of the moment that we don't mean; Aaron has said plenty of times that he's not going to talk to X for the rest of the series, Aden said it about Louise as well, I don't see why it comes under so much scrutiny now that Jay has said it. And he's not really expecting Aaron to "jump to what he wants" by apologising and admitting he was wrong. It's the other way round really, Jay has had to jump to what Aaron wants and swallow his pride because it was the only way of getting Aaron to even utter a word to him

Aaron came in, Jay said he could come and sit with them so they could have a proper discussion because he realised it wasn't just about the two of them, they needed to resolve things as a group and also considering he'd been out there slagging Louise off then she does have a right to defend herself as well tbf. And I think he became more confrontational because Louise was kind of inflaming the whole situation in a way

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4734324)

Jay and Aaron had already spoke(calmly) about this, and decided nothing else was to be said.

Minutes later Jay is talking about it with the others, and brings it up AGAIN. Then gets all confrontational when he has backup, rather than speaking calmly like he does on his own. Yes, Louise inflamed it further, but the point is...why did he start going on about it again after already deciding to drop it?

And Aaron is in the wrong?

There is not a negative atmosphere because of Aaron NOT mentioning it at all...Aaron has yet to say ANYTHING to Tom and Alex about the presents being for show, so he was clearly not wanting to create an atmosphere between them all. He said it to Jay, and Jay alone, Jay and Lou then continued this...making a massive deal about it... and made everyone else uncomfortable.

It is Louise and Jay that brought that up infront of them and to them, thus making Tom and Alex uncomfortable too.

Why the need to bring everyone else into their argument?

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4734376)

Its quite clear that we are never going to agree on this at all Matt. While I accept Aaron overreacted, IMO it is Jay and Louise that are carrying this on and making everyone else uncomfortable by keep bringing it up :p


Anyway, the good thing about this vid is it shows how highly edited the diary room conversation was...

Louise - "We've not done it to be sly, that's not in our nature, that's what we would do, that's what I would do in the real world"
Aaron - "No you wouldn't, you sat in there and said everything, you said that you wanted to save an African village, you said you can buy shoes for £12, you can buy a bag for £20 and you wouldn't spend that on a present"
Louise - "yeah I did, I did say that because it was a lot of money"


Sort of gives more weight to why Aaron said they did it for the cameras. Wonder what else we missed ;)

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4734459)

Yeah I think we'd better agree to disagree :laugh:

And wtf at Louise wanting to "save an African village" :conf2:

Originally Posted by DoM-h (Post 4734313)

I think Aaron is just extremely good at ignoring people and keeping himself to himself and Jay and Lou don't like it.

They're getting frustrated with him and taking their frustration out by telling him he's wrong, trying to get a reaction from him but Aaron is just ignoring it by saying 'okay' to every comment.

I love the line Jay uses 'I don't need to use big words me'. As if Aaron had be using big words... all he said up to that point was pretty much 'okay'.

No wonder the public on BOTS and Evictions can relate to Jay, they're probably all just as thick as him.