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MTVN 16-12-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4821004)
Since when is it illegal to kill a sheep? This would not even be illegal in England. If you have a sheep, and you want to kill it and eat it, you have every right to bash it in the head and kill it.

How many of you are vegetarians? Bashing an animal in the head with a baseball bat is not cruelty. That's probably the most humane way of killing it with limited resources.

I think it's more to do with the manner in which it was killed, it was done for entertainment, not for food or because it "the most humane way" of doing things

Although I do find it quite hard to get really worked up about this, there are far worse things happening in Afghanistan after all, and I do eat sheep all the time and I'm sure the way it is often killed in an abattoir isn't always so humane either

arista 16-12-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4821020)
i also think it's hilarious that this thread has more pages than the thread about a BRITISH woman MICROWAVING a CAT. So whoever said "not surprising, american soldiers are horrible" yet your own people in YOUr OWn COUNTRY, put cats in microwaves... and she wasn't killing it to eat, unlike the sheep video.

hypocrisy is in no short supply here at TiBB




Yes that was Evil Bitch

MTVN 16-12-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4821020)
i also think it's hilarious that this thread has more pages than the thread about a BRITISH woman MICROWAVING a CAT. So whoever said "not surprising, american soldiers are horrible" yet your own people in YOUr OWn COUNTRY, put cats in microwaves... and she wasn't killing it to eat, unlike the sheep video.

hypocrisy is in no short supply here at TiBB

I'm going to say this now; do not try and turn this into a British vs America; who's more cruel to animals competition

Livia 16-12-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4821023)
I think it's more to do with the manner in which it was killed, it was done for entertainment, not for food or because it "the most humane way" of doing things

Although I do find it quite hard to get really worked up about this, there are far worse things happening in Afghanistan after all, and I do eat sheep all the time and I'm sure the way it is often killed in an abattoir isn't always so humane either

I get what you're saying, and I agree with the abattoir comment, but this has been done for fun. I don't agree with any kind of killing for fun, not hunting stuff you're not going to eat and definitely not beating an animal to death with a baseball bat while dickheads around you whoop and clap like the morons they are.

lostalex 16-12-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4821025)
I'm going to say this now; do not try and turn this into a British vs America; who's more cruel to animals competition

I'm not making it anything, I'm just pointing out hypocrisy.

lostalex 16-12-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4821028)
I get what you're saying, and I agree with the abattoir comment, but this has been done for fun. I don't agree with any kind of killing for fun, not hunting stuff you're not going to eat and definitely not beating an animal to death with a baseball bat while dickheads around you whoop and clap like the morons they are.

how do you know it was done for fun? The video doesn't explain at all why the sheep was killed or what they did with the meat afterwards. Do fisherman not get excited and cheer when someone catches a large fish to kill?? Do hunters not get excited when they kill a large deer and celebrate??

Livia 16-12-2011 10:39 AM

If those posts are to me lostalex, I have you on ignore so I don't have to deal with your nonsense. Just so ya know and don't have to waste your time.

lostalex 16-12-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4821034)
If those posts are to me lostalex, I have you on ignore so I don't have to deal with your nonsense. Just so ya know and don't have to waste your time.

Then why are addressing me?

MTVN 16-12-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4821028)
I get what you're saying, and I agree with the abattoir comment, but this has been done for fun. I don't agree with any kind of killing for fun, not hunting stuff you're not going to eat and definitely not beating an animal to death with a baseball bat while dickheads around you whoop and clap like the morons they are.

Yeah I do agree with that

Edit - your post I mean, not the whooping at the animal being beaten with a baseball bat

arista 16-12-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4821034)
If those posts are to me lostalex, I have you on ignore so I don't have to deal with your nonsense. Just so ya know and don't have to waste your time.


Lucky You.

Pyramid* 16-12-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4821025)
I'm going to say this now; do not try and turn this into a British vs America; who's more cruel to animals competition

Thanks for that MTVN - much appreciated. :blush:

I'm happy confirm your earlier comment that the thread is less to do with the nationality - and more to do with the manner in which the animal was treated and the apparent glee shown by the onlookers (regardless of their nationality).

Shasown 16-12-2011 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4821025)
I'm going to say this now; do not try and turn this into a British vs America; who's more cruel to animals competition

Nah I think the Chinese have that one in the bag.

MeMyselfAndI 16-12-2011 12:35 PM

Disgusting people

Kazanne 16-12-2011 12:59 PM

That story has ruined my day,I abhor cruelty in any shape or form and for GROWN men to find that entertaining is beyond my comprehesion,It is so sad that animals and kids are subject to these cowards,I have no name for them,they should just crawl away and die!

Kazanne 16-12-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4821054)
Nah I think the Chinese have that one in the bag.

Yes another barbaric nation along with the Spanish lets be honest here every country has these low lifes breathing our precious oxygen,they contribute nothing to a civilized society

Kazanne 16-12-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4821032)
how do you know it was done for fun? The video doesn't explain at all why the sheep was killed or what they did with the meat afterwards. Do fisherman not get excited and cheer when someone catches a large fish to kill?? Do hunters not get excited when they kill a large deer and celebrate??

Yes ALL cowardly idiots that like to feel their 'power' over life and death,No need to kill in such a barbaric way unless of course you are a moron of the highest degree.

Kazanne 16-12-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudolph (Post 4820865)
I watched this about an hour ago but couldn't post here because the thread was locked. Those men are utter scum, they deserve to rot in hell. I'm fed up of this whole attitude that we should respect all troops for their work and that they are all heroes, I'm not denying that a good majority of the troops are good people who are fighting on behalf of their country but when I see things like this it just angers me. I would never respect people like that, no matter what job they do.

THIS^well said

Livia 16-12-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kazcringle (Post 4821167)
That story has ruined my day,I abhor cruelty in any shape or form and for GROWN men to find that entertaining is beyond my comprehesion,It is so sad that animals and kids are subject to these cowards,I have no name for them,they should just crawl away and die!

I take it you're using the term "men" in its loosest possible form.

You mention animals and kids, I saw a really interesting documentary about how animal protection officers in the USA are being trained to look for signs of child abuse, because one type of cruelty often follows another.

lostalex 17-12-2011 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kazcringle (Post 4821172)
Yes ALL cowardly idiots that like to feel their 'power' over life and death,No need to kill in such a barbaric way unless of course you are a moron of the highest degree.

and what is a non-barbaric way to kill?

Please inform of us the CIVILIZED way to kill something. There's nothing civilized about killing. but we do kill animals, we are a species that eats other species.

Style should not be an issue when it comes to killing., the fact is we all enjoy the benefits of kiling, whether it's killing on an industrial scale, or on a personal scale, we all eat meat and we all accept that killing is part of our nutritional requirements as a species. (unless yur a vegan, although yur still kiling plants)

Pyramid* 17-12-2011 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4822259)
and what is a non-barbaric way to kill?

Please inform of us the CIVILIZED way to kill something. There's nothing civilized about killing. but we do kill animals, we are a species that eats other species.

Style should not be an issue when it comes to killing., the fact is we all enjoy the benefits of kiling, whether it's killing on an industrial scale, or on a personal scale, we all eat meat and we all accept that killing is part of our nutritional requirements as a species. (unless yur a vegan, although yur still kiling plants)


We aren't discussing talking about animals for food - the whole ISSUE here about this thread is that supposedly 'American' SOLDIERS have been part of this brutal, barbaric, clubbing to death of a defenceless animal, in the most appalling manner, and being seen to enjoy it - as well as the person doing the actual beating of the animal.


THAT is the context of the thread. Not how animals are killed overall.....it is the MANNER in which SOLDIERS are happily witnessing this - one even dragging the poor beast to it's horrendously hellish death.

lostalex 17-12-2011 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowball (Post 4822277)
We aren't discussing talking about animals for food - the whole ISSUE here about this thread is that supposedly 'American' SOLDIERS have been part of this brutal, barbaric, clubbing to death of a defenceless animal, in the most appalling manner, and being seen to enjoy it - as well as the person doing the actual beating of the animal.


THAT is the context of the thread. Not how animals are killed overall.....it is the MANNER in which SOLDIERS are happily witnessing this - one even dragging the poor beast to it's horrendously hellish death.

I'm sorry, but unless you are a vegan, you are a hypocrite. Being happy about feeding your friends is not an evil thing, that is an act of love.

Think about all major events and holidays and celebrations.. what is the center of the event usually?? It's a MEAL, usually with a BIG hunk of MEAT that everyone shares.

Pyramid* 17-12-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4822890)
I'm sorry, but unless you are a vegan, you are a hypocrite. Being happy about feeding your friends is not an evil thing, that is an act of love.

Are you unable to discuss the subject of a thread without spinning it into something it's not about. It's not exactly difficult to follow.

This isn't a story about killing animals for food - it's about the sheer brutality and pleasure / amusement being shown by 'American' Soldiers who stand back and appear to think it's all one big laugh.

lostalex 17-12-2011 09:13 PM

"Undercover filming has revealed the truth of millions of piglets on British farms having their teeth clipped and tails docked without anaesthetic."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1gpglJTSC


Do you eat any pork products???

Pyramid* 17-12-2011 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4822934)
"Undercover filming has revealed the truth of millions of piglets on British farms having their teeth clipped and tails docked without anaesthetic."


Do you eat any pork products???

:bored:
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Are you unable to discuss the subject of a thread without spinning it into something it's not about. It's not exactly difficult to follow.

This isn't a story about killing animals for food.

:bored:

Jords 17-12-2011 10:13 PM

Swear everybody has gone mental the amount of sick and bizarre news that has come forward lately is disgusting.


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