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Angus 16-01-2012 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 4878316)
Denise is now a legendary housemate, whether you like her or not

Strike "legendary" and substitute "infamous" and yeah she is, for all the wrong reasons, the sad cow.

Livia 16-01-2012 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kisywisy (Post 4877545)
denise is a cow. no wonder michael can't be arsed with her anymore

Pretty much what I was going to say.

Ammi 16-01-2012 09:22 AM

Tbf she did provide a hilarious moment last night...one way or another most of the female HM's have made a lot of money out of showing their t*ts....no amount of money in the world would make Michael look at hers

crocs 16-01-2012 07:46 PM

I think Denise thinks that it's all just their kind of humour and I thought so too until recently. The other night Michael was still stroking her hair when she talked strange things as usual but yesterday something had changed. But Denise cannot read him at all and therefore she doesn't get that he wants her out from his face.

Now, this is a bit off topic, but suits to Denise and Michael's relationship as well. I was surprised how little these celebrities know how to interact with each other (or at least that's how it's portrayed). It feels that at times when two people are talking with each other, it's more like they're talking at each other. Like they havin separate conversations as neither actually continues the other person's thoughts. It's weird and it made me think that do celebrities just talk by themselves and no-one is usually allowed to cut in and express their views. Soliloquays and celebrities seem to go together. :/

Pyramid* 16-01-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 4878316)
Denise is now a legendary housemate, whether you like her or not

Replace 'legendary' housemate with 'most cringeworthy' housemate, and you'll be close. :D

the truth 17-01-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by crocs (Post 4879984)
I think Denise thinks that it's all just their kind of humour and I thought so too until recently. The other night Michael was still stroking her hair when she talked strange things as usual but yesterday something had changed. But Denise cannot read him at all and therefore she doesn't get that he wants her out from his face.

Now, this is a bit off topic, but suits to Denise and Michael's relationship as well. I was surprised how little these celebrities know how to interact with each other (or at least that's how it's portrayed). It feels that at times when two people are talking with each other, it's more like they're talking at each other. Like they havin separate conversations as neither actually continues the other person's thoughts. It's weird and it made me think that do celebrities just talk by themselves and no-one is usually allowed to cut in and express their views. Soliloquays and celebrities seem to go together. :/

its not just celebrities..the basic art of conversation was lost years ago...you know one persons talks the other one listens then they talk and so it goes...

michael is a throwback to proper communicators where he actually listens, he actually asks the real questions when he gets the right moment one to one, he then responds and on we go, he also doesnt talk for the sake of it, he said 1 word in one episode and stole the whole show, when looking at natasha in heels , she said are you feeling horny michael, YESSS he bellowed.:dance: he used 4 words to sum up denise i think it was "pretentios, incomprehensible, drunken bitch :xyxwave:amen...then later abominable.....5 words....she spouted 10001 and said nothing all day...empty vessels make most noice........some people have got the x factor some havent

but he is very chatty when hes comfortable with the environment. once what he says gets deliberately taken the wrong way as it was with the 3 witches, hes out of the room. very smart....the 3 witches play dumb and are ignorant sly and manipulative as heck. dreadful dreadful self centred people. theyve lost all subtley and nuisance. nichola is just a plank and natalie is playing dumb.

Scotty07 17-01-2012 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 4881055)
its not just celebrities..the basic art of conversation was lost years ago...you know one persons talks the other one listens then they talk and so it goes...

michael is a throwback to proper communicators where he actually listens, he actually asks the real questions when he gets the right moment one to one, he then responds and on we go, he also doesnt talk for the sake of it, he said 1 word in one episode and stole the whole show, when looking at natasha in heels , she said are you feeling horny michael, YESSS he bellowed.:dance: he used 4 words to sum up denise i think it was "pretentios, incomprehensible, drunken bitch :xyxwave:amen...then later abominable.....5 words....she spouted 10001 and said nothing all day...empty vessels make most noice........some people have got the x factor some havent

but he is very chatty when hes comfortable with the environment. once what he says gets deliberately taken the wrong way as it was with the 3 witches, hes out of the room. very smart....the 3 witches play dumb and are ignorant sly and manipulative as heck. dreadful dreadful self centred people. theyve lost all subtley and nuisance. nichola is just a plank and natalie is playing dumb.

It's a real shame that there is no one in there that he can just sit down and chill with and have a laugh.:sad: They always pick too many predictable and uninteresting desperate fame hungry types and not enough Michael Madsens, Terry Christians, Dirk Benedicts, George Galloways etc etc.

I know Coolio was loud and in your face sometimes, but him Tommy Sheridan and Terry Christian used to chill and talk for hours on live feed. I know that's not everyone's cup of tea, but it makes the show more interesting and is a nice alternative to the predictable glamour model/soap actors/actresses/ex boy band/girl band types with nothing interesting to say imo.

I am not saying they shouldn't put idiots like Kinky Kirk in or nasty b*tches, boring glamour model types or the safe floaters or the followers etc., but I just like it to be more even rather than the lone odd man out/fish out of water type which is what has happened with Michael, although I do still find him the most entertaining in there.

I guess it's just a lot harder to persuade the more interesting celebs/has been celebs to go in there and the Kinky Kirk types are much, much cheaper.

chuff me dizzy 17-01-2012 09:49 AM

Its getting pretty childish IMO ,Hm8s seem to blame Michael as he got so many noms for the way he is with Denise

Beso 17-01-2012 09:50 AM

I think Denise's problem is that she is determined to treat Michael as a normal person and not be overawed by his Hollywood status, unfortunatley she's going about it all the wrong way and is actually trying to hard and making a point of being quite rude and obnoxious towards him in an effort to treat him like any other human being.

Unfortunatley for her, we all know that you don't treat people the way she is treating Michael at the moment. She's coming across as desperate to be liked by everyone, even gossiping behind Michaels back thinking she's in with the in crowd. No one likes a know-it-all, and that is Denise to a T.

What a loser, we all know the in crowd is the Twins, Frankie and Michael.

chuff me dizzy 17-01-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 4881360)
I think Denise's problem is that she is determined to treat Michael as a normal person and not be overawed by his Hollywood status, unfortunatley she's going about it all the wrong way and is actually trying to hard and making a point of being quite rude and obnoxious towards him in an effort to treat him like any other human being.

Unfortunatley for her, we all know that you don't treat people the way she is treating Michael at the moment. She's coming across as desperate to be liked by everyone, even gossiping behind Michaels back thinking she's in with the in crowd. No one likes a know-it-all, and that is Denise to a T.

What a loser, we all know the in crowd is the Twins, Frankie and Michael.

Right ,so hes made some films so he must be treat differntly to the rest of the house? :shocked: FGS !!!!

Beso 17-01-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 4881366)
Right ,so hes made some films so he must be treat differntly to the rest of the house? :shocked: FGS !!!!

No not at all.

What I mean is that most people are overawed by big Hollywood stars and Denise is trying way to hard to treat him the same way she treats other people, however, sadly for her, the way she treats other people is by being overbearing and pathetically humourless in order to get on their side or to be liked by them.It may work with the morons in the house like Kirk, Nicola and Natalie but it doesn't work like that with Michael.


She should be intelligent enough to realise this and THEN treat him differently to other people in the house. Unfortunatley she's so self absorbed thinking she's the bollox to realise this at the moment.

chuff me dizzy 17-01-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 4881378)
No not at all.

What I mean is that most people are overawed by big Hollywood stars and Denise is trying way to hard to treat him the same way she treats other people, however, sadly for her, the way she treats other people is by being overbearing and pathetically humourless in order to get on their side or to be liked by them.It may work with the morons in the house like Kirk, Nicola and Natalie but it doesn't work like that with Michael.


She should be intelligent enough to realise this and THEN treat him differently to other people in the house. Unfortunatley she's so self absorbed thinking she's the bollox to realise this at the moment.

Change"big hollywood star" to "hasbeen " and your on the right track

Josy 17-01-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 4881409)
Change"big hollywood star" to "hasbeen " and your on the right track

A has been wouldnt have 12 movies coming out this year :)

chuff me dizzy 17-01-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 4881414)
A has been wouldnt have 12 movies coming out this year :)

A successful Hollywood star would not be in BB

Josy 17-01-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 4881416)
A successful Hollywood star would not be in BB

He's still a working actor, not a has been imo.

chuff me dizzy 17-01-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 4881419)
He's still a working actor, not a has been imo.

Must be skint or desperate to be in CBB, next year Tom Hanks? Tom Cruise? Brad Pitt?

Josy 17-01-2012 10:41 AM

I dont think anyone has ever compared him to any of those actors you mentioned tbh

chuff me dizzy 17-01-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 4881437)
I dont think anyone has ever compared him to any of those actors you mentioned tbh

No ,they havent ,they make out hes even bigger than all 3, but a true Hollywood legend would not be in CBB ,as my list here proves,

Roy Mars III 17-01-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 4881416)
A successful Hollywood star would not be in BB

Not really. Big Brother is easy money. He needs the money to pay for child support.

Niamh. 17-01-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by crocs (Post 4879984)
I think Denise thinks that it's all just their kind of humour and I thought so too until recently. The other night Michael was still stroking her hair when she talked strange things as usual but yesterday something had changed. But Denise cannot read him at all and therefore she doesn't get that he wants her out from his face.

Now, this is a bit off topic, but suits to Denise and Michael's relationship as well. I was surprised how little these celebrities know how to interact with each other (or at least that's how it's portrayed). It feels that at times when two people are talking with each other, it's more like they're talking at each other. Like they havin separate conversations as neither actually continues the other person's thoughts. It's weird and it made me think that do celebrities just talk by themselves and no-one is usually allowed to cut in and express their views. Soliloquays and celebrities seem to go together. :/

That's an interesting observation actually and I do think it applies to alot (not all) of them in there. Gareth and Romeo are quiet alot of the time but they look like they're really listening to anyone who's speaking. The others not so much.

Niamh. 17-01-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 4881360)
I think Denise's problem is that she is determined to treat Michael as a normal person and not be overawed by his Hollywood status, unfortunatley she's going about it all the wrong way and is actually trying to hard and making a point of being quite rude and obnoxious towards him in an effort to treat him like any other human being.

Unfortunatley for her, we all know that you don't treat people the way she is treating Michael at the moment. She's coming across as desperate to be liked by everyone, even gossiping behind Michaels back thinking she's in with the in crowd. No one likes a know-it-all, and that is Denise to a T.

What a loser, we all know the in crowd is the Twins, Frankie and Michael.

:love:

chuff me dizzy 17-01-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy Mars III (Post 4881439)
Not really. Big Brother is easy money. He needs the money to pay for child support.

With 12 films out this year ? come on :shocked:

Roy Mars III 17-01-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 4881449)
With 12 films out this year ? come on :shocked:

yes. He is still a supporting actor in most of them if not all. He's not being paid 3 million a film

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...18-504083.html


A year old, but it's pretty obvious he's doing Big Brother for the money

Beso 17-01-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy Mars III (Post 4881439)
Not really. Big Brother is easy money. He needs the money to pay for child support.

My sig is a MM quote.

chuff me dizzy 17-01-2012 10:54 AM

Reading wiki ,apart from a few exceptions ,he appears to be a z-lister.................... Since the mid 1990s, Madsen has appeared more often in lower-budget films released directly to video or television.


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