Half the BB10 cast being out and most of BB12 is intact :|

BB10s April <3

Ivette, Dustin, and Brendon's photos:laugh:

I know this is a really controversial opinion but I loved Natalie Martinez. She's SO underrated as a player.

Same. At the time I didn't like her but she completely ran that house and made an incredible villain.

Natalie was great, well deserved runner-up.

What!!!??? I respect/love me a good villain and manipulator, but Natalie didn't do anything at all she won just as many comps as Jordan and in that final two I would have voted for Jordan because they basically played the same game except for that Natalie was just gross and Jordan wasn't. The only game move she made was when she turned Jeff on Russell and really Kevin made that move. I liked her as a HGs because of how delusional she was but underrated as a player? Really?

Not true. Natalie's game was FAR superior to Jordan's. Of course it wasn't fully shown on the episodes but through watching the feeds you'd see that Jordan/Natalie seriously never spoke for like 40 days while Natalie's side of the house was in power. But then once things fell apart for Natalie, she put her social game into high gear and had Jordan convinced that they were friends and that she could be trusted within a week. Why do you think Lydia got evicted over Natalie? The episodes made it look like it was cause of Lydia's meltdown but nope, not the case. The Jeff/Jordan alliance originally said Chima would go, and then Natalie, but Natalie got close to them and convinced them that she liked them and was on their side to the point where Jeff and Jordan wanted to take NATALIE to the final 3 with them, not Russell or Michele.

Also the move where they turned Jordeff on Russell was Natalie's idea. Once again not shown in the episode. Natalie created the plan and Kevin executed it. They both deserve credit. However throughout this Natalie was keeping her slate clean with Jordeff by getting them to believe that she was genuinely their friend and that she had no plans to backstab them. EVERYTHING Natalie said about Michele they believed instantly even when it was complete BS. Natalie had them eating out of the palms of her hand. And she successfully convinced them that she had nothing to do with Kevin's decision to get Jeff out at F5. That would've been very useful in securing Jordan's jury vote if she was against Kevin in the F2. Not to mention she was also able to convince Michele and Jordan that she wasn't aligned with Kevin in the final four even though it was incredibly obvious. They only figured it out when Natalie celebrated Kevin's final PoV win, and even then Jordan was attached to Natalie, and believed that she was more in debt to Natalie than Kevin for staying that week, because Natalie told her that she had convinced Kevin to keep her and Jordan believed it.

Overall, Natalie played a well balanced game. The only reason she didn't win was because Lydia was completely unstable. Lydia didn't hate Natalie because of anything that happened in terms of gameplay... she disliked her because she was jealous of Jessie/Natalie's friendship. So as a result she turned Jessie against Natalie in the jury house. Had Lydia not been so spiteful (or had Chima not quit and gone to jury to keep Jessie in line) Natalie would've won the game.

A couple other things Natalie should be credited for
-Kept Ronnie from backdooring Russell which would've been terrible for her game
-Encouraged Jessie to go back on his deal and get Casey out instead of Ronnie
-Convinced Russell to hold a house meeting in which he lashed out at Michele and apologized to Chima, which held off the immediate formation of the J/J/M/R alliance
-Held the bond between the alliance of Jessie, Natalie and Chima that would have dominated the game had it not been for the coup

Darn too bad I only had live feed for the first month. After that whole huge fight night with the whole house arguing and screaming my sister told my mom and they changed the password.:mad: really makes me want to get LF this year.

Aww that sucks. :( Well you're 3 years older than you were during BB11 so hopefully your mom doesn't freak out if anything similar happens this year.

Good thing she didn't catch you watching any BB9 live feeds...

Yeah BB9 was crazy, but I for sure know that I atleast get BBAD which is good.

Before the top 100 there's 33 men out and 9 women out. Typical TiBB :P

Jeff is too high

I don't get how out of the three stooges Justin is the least liked. Robert was pretty damn nasty and Justin was really likeable.

is the pic of James from one of the gay pornos he's done?

it is indeed. It's kindof odd that when you google contestants from the US you're more likely to see the men in all their glory.

Why are Nathan & David so low, they were lovely. TiBB are so sexist

Also Michael is too low :bored: & you're right Robert & Jee were worse than Justin

Russell and Dana should be much higher.

Jeff's picture :laugh3:

Dana :love:

Justin's hair looks like **** :laugh:

And Kail being anywhere but last in this poll :nono:

Dana and Chelsia should be higher!

I loved Jee. He was completely strategically inept and kindof underrated as a character IMO.