What has Natalie done that was interesting? excluding stuff engineered by Big Brother

Exactly. All I've seen her do is bitch while acting all nicey nice about it

That's true but what exactly has Michael done that wasn't being nasty or trying to be nasty?

I've seen him observe alot and when he does speak, he's on the money. He says it like he sees it. When he was talking about Natasha for example, he seemed genuinely fascinated by her but not bitching about her, just interested in her story.

That's true, and it was a nice relationship and I guess that's why I don't mind him, but tbf his attitude towards Andrew, Nicola and now Denise was/is somewhat less than wholesome imo.

Only because :

Andrew was licking his arse, laughing like a maniac whenever he took a breath and was probably very off putting for him.

Nicola is a two faced nasty bitch, can you blame him?

Denise is harassing the poor man constantly, maybe she should just leave him alone?

She needs a good period.

I thought Andrew was being friendly to him but I accept that's open to interpretation. Nicola had done absolutely nothing to Michael when he went on his inside/outside rant. She may be a bitch but he had no place talking to her like that. Denise has gone too far but he only has himself to blame. If he doesn't like her he should ignore her but he obviously does feel something because he can't get her out of his mind, he seems to spend all day talking about her :conf:

ummm, every time denise starts with him, she sits on his bed when he's trying to sleep with the covers over his head, what else can he do to avoid her??? She always engages him, i've never seen him approach her EVER, so what are you talking about??

I'm still baffled about what the dispute is about.

Every episode I tune in and one might start with a hello or a "Michael? Michael? Michael?" and then one or both of them kick off. What is the problem?

Well, on the point about Nicola, why shouldn't he have his little rant at her about what she did to Natasha, I mean what Natasha had done was none of Nicolas business either but she didn't seem to care and stuck her nose in and passed judgement anyway? I think more people should call her up that tbh, she's very brave when she's sat behind her keyboard isn't she? All Michael did was ask her why she feels the need to judge a perfect stranger. Fair question if you ask me.

And on Denise, I'm sure he would walk away and never give her a second thought if he wasn't trapped in a little house with her 24/7

oh ok, so it wasn't Michael but a bodyless random pair of hands that were massaging her in the kitchen that started the whole thing of in the first place and gave Denise the impression that he liked her :conf2:

Denise has gone way to far, but if you can't stand the heat then stay out of the kitchen Michael.

My view on the whole affair is that Michael led her on with the massage and when she responded she got hurt and now she wants revenge and he can't accept his part in what he's done.

Michael led her on????????????????? lol

I don't think he was defending Natasha for one minute, at that point in time he was in his 'I wonder why she did that' Phase with Natasha and hadn't come of the fence. Re: the keyboard thing yes that's true, it remains to be seen if she continues the tirade after CBB. I hope she doesn't.

are you serious? you honestly think Michael likes her?

I don't he's completely at odds with her no. If he were he wouldn't be so wound up about it all, or at least that's the impression I get.

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference!

Well maybe it a cultural difference then. i think it's CLEAR that he can't stand her.

The whole thing started because Denise was jealous of the attention he was getting from Kirk, Frankie etc, thats when she started with all the "he hasnt asked me about me" bull**** IMO.

hes been vile, his laziness and nastiness have not entertained me

Yes thats where it started ,Denise has to be centre of attention

that doesn't even make sense, that's like saying if you speak up against racism you secretly are racist, cause if you really did'nt like racism, you wouldn't say anything or respond to it at all.

How is responding to something that is being thrown in in your face mean you secretly like it?? what???

If someone is being offensive to you, then you don't ignore it. You get angry, that is a natural response for anyone.

Certainly laid in his bed, thats all he ever does

well what would you do if you had a fat shrew harassing you???

I think we all know what we'd like to do, and prolly what michael would like to do, but obviously he can't do that.

I thought Andrew was lovely to him,but Michael is so far up is own rear he turned on Andrew