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Niamh. 22-02-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn (Post 4972025)
And without a second thought for his poor wife in the process.




Yeah.

You really think a person who loved his son so much he couldn't bear to be on this planet without him, could be that heartless to not even give "a second thought for his poor wife in the process" I'm really surprised at you Glenn.

Roy Mars III 22-02-2012 01:55 PM

what Glenn is saying has rings of truth to it, but went about explaining it and arguing for it in the worst way possible.

But the truth is when you are in the that state you are not thinking like a totally rational person. Depression get a grips of you and stops you from fully analyzing the situation like you normally would. To call him a coward is just the height of ignorance.

Roy Mars III 22-02-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Niall (Post 4972034)
He was depressed Glenn. Its a mental illness. He was unwell. To criticise someone who was in a such a delicate state and had gone through such a rough time in their life is just uncalled for.

He most likely didn't think of his wife because, as I stated before, he couldn't cope with his day to day existence, and therefore sought a way out.

100% this

Glenn. 22-02-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Niall (Post 4972034)
He was depressed Glenn. Its a mental illness. He was unwell. To criticise someone who was in a such a delicate state and had gone through such a rough time in their life is just uncalled for.

He most likely didn't think of his wife because, as I stated before, he couldn't cope with his day to day existence, and therefore sought a way out.

There's help out there for people who go through this.

It must just be me, but if I lost a child I would want to try and get through the situation with the people I love, more so my wife who would be going through the same thing as me. To just end it all wouldn't be an option remotely.

Jake. 22-02-2012 01:56 PM

When your in that state, you haven't got the mindset of which you would normally have. To slag him off because he has left his wife behind is just plain stupid. Noone knows what its like going through what the two parents went through until it has personally happened to you.

Jake. 22-02-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn (Post 4972049)
There's help out there for people who go through this.

It must just be me, but if I lost a child I would want to try and get through the situation with the people I love, more so my wife who would be going through the same thing as me. To just end it all wouldn't be an option remotely.

So he is in the wrong because you would be able to cope with it better? My god.

Smithy 22-02-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 4972018)
No Glenn, your point is soo ridiculous that it's making her angry, being right is something different.

:joker:

Glenn. 22-02-2012 01:58 PM

He was doing good in the world with his anti bullying campaign. It should of been enough for him to cope with his days. Knowing he was helping in memory of his son.

Roy Mars III 22-02-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn (Post 4972058)
He was doing good in the world with his anti bullying campaign. It should of been enough for him to cope with his days. Knowing he was helping in memory of his son.

who are you to be able to say that

Angus 22-02-2012 02:01 PM

Isn't it just as selfish for others to want those in mental, emotional and physical pain to soldier on in a life they no longer want or enjoy and which they find a daily torture?

The pain of losing one of my children would be unbearable for me, but personally I would never commit suicide because of those I would leave behind, but that would be MY choice and I doubt I'd give a stuff about a stranger's opinion. Walk a mile in someone's shoes before you judge them.

As for being a coward's way out, is it? I think it would take immense courage to kill oneself, when you think of all that could go wrong in the process, or if one is a believer in an afterlife, not knowing for sure what might wait beyond the veil.

CharlieO 22-02-2012 02:01 PM

I read this and felt sad.

Jake. 22-02-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Mars III (Post 4972062)
who are you to be able to say that

Exactly... He acts as if he himself has lived through the pain...

CharlieO 22-02-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4972044)
You really think a person who loved his son so much he couldn't bear to be on this planet without him, could be that heartless to not even give "a second thought for his poor wife in the process" I'm really surprised at you Glenn.

He could have a bad relationship with his wife you don't know?

Glenn. 22-02-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 4972075)
Exactly... He acts as if he himself has lived through the pain...

But my Nan and Grandad have, and they haven't killed themselves.

Neither has the wife in this situation.

Niamh. 22-02-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Angus (Post 4972071)
Isn't it just as selfish for others to want those in mental, emotional and physical pain to soldier on in a life they no longer want or enjoy and which they find a daily torture?

The pain of losing one of my children would be unbearable for me, but personally I would never commit suicide because of those I would leave behind, but that would be MY choice and I doubt I'd give a stuff about a stranger's opinion. Walk a mile in someone's shoes before you judge them.

As for being a coward's way out, is it? I think it would take immense courage to kill oneself, when you think of all that could go wrong in the process, or if one is a believer in an afterlife, not knowing for sure what might wait beyond the veil.

Exactly Angus.

Jake. 22-02-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn (Post 4972089)
But my Nan and Grandad have, and they haven't killed themselves.

Neither has the wife in this situation.

My great Nan has, and she is still here. But last time I knew, everybody is different and takes stress differently.

Roy Mars III 22-02-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn (Post 4972089)
But my Nan and Grandad have, and they haven't killed themselves.

Neither has the wife in this situation.

everyone handles things differently

Glenn. 22-02-2012 02:10 PM

And everyone has different opinions on everything.:idc:

CharlieO 22-02-2012 02:11 PM

Glenn is wrong. All emotions are controlled by chemicals in the brain, some people produce more bad emotions and cannot handle it, each case varies you cannot say that someone should be able to cope.

Jake. 22-02-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn (Post 4972104)
And everyone has different opinions on everything.:idc:

There is an opinion, then there is being rude and disrespectful.

Niamh. 22-02-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieO (Post 4972105)
Glenn is wrong. All emotions are controlled by chemicals in the brain, some people produce more bad emotions and cannot handle it, each case varies you cannot say that someone should be able to cope.

Exactly Charlie, as for your other post about his relationship with his wife, who knows? I don't, that's the whole point really, nobody knows how he was feeling at the time.

Glenn. 22-02-2012 02:16 PM

All I'm saying is the only people I feel sorry for in situations of suicide are the people left behind. Because in my opinion suicide isn't the answer for anything. All it does is cause more pain and suffering, which obviously people on here are OK with.

MTVN 22-02-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Angus (Post 4972071)
Isn't it just as selfish for others to want those in mental, emotional and physical pain to soldier on in a life they no longer want or enjoy and which they find a daily torture?

The pain of losing one of my children would be unbearable for me, but personally I would never commit suicide because of those I would leave behind, but that would be MY choice and I doubt I'd give a stuff about a stranger's opinion. Walk a mile in someone's shoes before you judge them.

As for being a coward's way out, is it? I think it would take immense courage to kill oneself, when you think of all that could go wrong in the process, or if one is a believer in an afterlife, not knowing for sure what might wait beyond the veil.

Yeah I'd say I agree with this, I find it something hard to comment on because I can't imagine how far at the edge you feel for suicide to be considered the only option, although that's also why I think it's pretty narrow-minded just to label him as "selfish" and be done with it

Niamh. 22-02-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn (Post 4972118)
All I'm saying is the only people I feel sorry for in situations of suicide are the people left behind. Because in my opinion suicide isn't the answer for anything. All it does is cause more pain and suffering, which obviously people on here are OK with.

Find me one single post in this thread where anyone has said, that they're fine with the people left behind suffering.

Kizzy 22-02-2012 02:23 PM

obviously....dear me....im done on this thread. I made my point.


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