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InOne 21-03-2012 01:57 PM

Thank god for lock-ins

Kizzy 21-03-2012 02:00 PM

You are joking? there is loads of media attention surrounding obesity at the moment...
Child obesity in particular, why are supermarkets promoting these goods in such an aggressive way is a better question than why are people buying them?
Anyhoo its a bit off topic and im off out, ttfn :)

arista 21-03-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5033041)
I don't smoke too much anyway lol I'd be getting worried if I was on like 20 a day or something

Get to the Store before 6PM today

InOne 21-03-2012 02:19 PM

http://www.day-tripper.net/xzi/xmap2...accoprices.gif

Look at the differences!! My god! Only Ireland is worse than us

Smithy 21-03-2012 02:25 PM

90p in Ukraine :conf2:

dodgy cigs thur

Kate! 21-03-2012 02:26 PM

Off topic, so apologies. If the Goevernment are so concerned about promoting health issues then why not make fruit a lot cheaper and as someone mentioned raise tax on foodstuffs with no nutritional value. I love fruit and would buy much more if it wasn't so expensive.

InOne 21-03-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by *Kate* (Post 5033195)
Off topic, so apologies. If the Goevernment are so concerned about promoting health issues then why not make fruit a lot cheaper and as someone mentioned raise tax on foodstuffs with no nutritional value. I love fruit and would buy much more if it wasn't so expensive.

Because they want as much money out of you as possible. They don't actually care about your health.

MTVN 21-03-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5033184)
http://www.day-tripper.net/xzi/xmap2...accoprices.gif

Look at the differences!! My god! Only Ireland is worse than us

Tis ridiculous, apart from Scandinavia France is the only European country where they're over a fiver and here we are putting them up to £7.50 :bored:

Vicky. 21-03-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5033197)
Because they want as much money out of you as possible. They don't actually care about your health.

Spot on

fruit_cake 21-03-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5033197)
Because they want as much money out of you as possible. They don't actually care about your health.

this

Mrluvaluva 21-03-2012 03:04 PM

In 1990 the average RRP for a pack of 20 cigs was £1.65. :conf2:

I actually was not aware you could buy cigarettes for online delivery from Tesco etc.

Kizzy 21-03-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by *Kate* (Post 5033195)
Off topic, so apologies. If the Goevernment are so concerned about promoting health issues then why not make fruit a lot cheaper and as someone mentioned raise tax on foodstuffs with no nutritional value. I love fruit and would buy much more if it wasn't so expensive.

Exactly kate the major companies, coca cola, nestle, want you to stay addicted to their crap so they allow supermarkets to do bogof, and other promotions.
They dont give a rats left testicle for anyones health, they want to make money. And as these are 'luxury' items you pay VAT on them so everyones a winner....except your waistline.
Even a bag of carrots is a quid now, a family sized bag of apples £2 a cauli £1.50....fruit and veg has never been so expensive.
Im seriously looking into growing my own :)

Z 21-03-2012 06:15 PM

The government doesn't want to wipe out smoking, it makes so much money out of taxing it, fact.

Iceman 21-03-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 5033192)
90p in Ukraine :conf2:

dodgy cigs thur

€9.10 here for 20 :bawling:

Vicky. 21-03-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5033967)
Exactly kate the major companies, coca cola, nestle, want you to stay addicted to their crap so they allow supermarkets to do bogof, and other promotions.
They dont give a rats left testicle for anyones health, they want to make money. And as these are 'luxury' items you pay VAT on them so everyones a winner....except your waistline.
Even a bag of carrots is a quid now, a family sized bag of apples £2 a cauli £1.50....fruit and veg has never been so expensive.
Im seriously looking into growing my own :)

This is why I buy my fruit and veg at the fruiters instead of supermarkets.

We get 2 big bags full of various fruit/veg for a fiver. If we bought the same stuff in morrisons or something it would probably be nearly 20 quid :laugh:

CharlieO 21-03-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5033224)
Spot on

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Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 5033227)
this

Because you guys know exactly why the government make all their decisions. :rolleyes:
They care for health but they know the inelastic demand and addictive nature of the product means that consumption will not likely decline due to price rises so they may as well tax it rather than legislating an entire ban. That way it is a compromise, smokers can smoke but have to pay for the social costs that they cause. It is a pretty fair deal.

CharlieO 21-03-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5033967)
Exactly kate the major companies, coca cola, nestle, want you to stay addicted to their crap so they allow supermarkets to do bogof, and other promotions.
They dont give a rats left testicle for anyones health, they want to make money. And as these are 'luxury' items you pay VAT on them so everyones a winner....except your waistline.
Even a bag of carrots is a quid now, a family sized bag of apples £2 a cauli £1.50....fruit and veg has never been so expensive.
Im seriously looking into growing my own :)

Prices are rising because consumption is causing aggregate demand in the economy to shift outward at a pace that aggregate supply cannot contend with.
It is our fault the majority of prices are rising, we are consuming too much.

Oh and btw coca cola, nestle and other TNC's have no control at the price that supermarkets offer their goods for. It is entirely down to the supermarket.

Kizzy 21-03-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieO (Post 5034018)
Prices are rising because consumption is causing aggregate demand in the economy to shift outward at a pace that aggregate supply cannot contend with.
It is our fault the majority of prices are rising, we are consuming too much.

Oh and btw coca cola, nestle and other TNC's have no control at the price that supermarkets offer their goods for. It is entirely down to the supermarket.


I have no idea what any of that means....:bawling:

MTVN 21-03-2012 06:35 PM

It's AS Economics all over again :laugh:

Vicky. 21-03-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieO (Post 5034012)
Because you guys know exactly why the government make all their decisions. :rolleyes:
They care for health but they know the inelastic demand and addictive nature of the product means that consumption will not likely decline due to price rises so they may as well tax it rather than legislating an entire ban. That way it is a compromise, smokers can smoke but have to pay for the social costs that they cause. It is a pretty fair deal.

Well we know just as much as you do tbh :laugh:

'If the Goevernment are so concerned about promoting health issues then why not make fruit a lot cheaper and as someone mentioned raise tax on foodstuffs with no nutritional value. I love fruit and would buy much more if it wasn't so expensive. '

Is what was replied to. If they really did care about health, they would do exactly that. Make healthy food cheaper and junk more expensive. Of course it wouldnt stop everyone eating junk...but it would allow those who WANT to eat healthy to do so...as at the moment its a lot cheaper to buy a giant bag of chicken nuggets and a bag of chips than it is to buy the fresh ingredients for a healthy meal, and thats not right at all.

At the same time we would be cutting NHS bills too. As if more people ate healthy there would be less obesity related illnesses.

Vicky. 21-03-2012 06:38 PM

Also, smokers pay for a LOT more than just the costs they cause.

The NHS would collapse without smokers.

Kizzy 21-03-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5034010)
This is why I buy my fruit and veg at the fruiters instead of supermarkets.

We get 2 big bags full of various fruit/veg for a fiver. If we bought the same stuff in morrisons or something it would probably be nearly 20 quid :laugh:

Our nearest grocers is 5 miles away, but it just shows you how much profit they are making if small independant shops can afford to supply at an affordable price and still make a profit?

Bollo 21-03-2012 06:39 PM

I guess I'm kind of resigned to it now and I only buy 10 packs so I don't really notice the hike. I chose to smoke anyhow.

But I do think what a couple of people have said about lowering the price of healthy and/ or basic foods and increasing the price/tax on luxury sugary/fatty foods sounds sensible to me. Obesity related illnesses are probably costing more than smokers now.

Marc 21-03-2012 06:40 PM

Good, smoking is bad.

Vicky. 21-03-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5034041)
Our nearest grocers is 5 miles away, but it just shows you how much profit they are making if small independant shops can afford to supply at an affordable price and still make a profit?

I know. Its ridiculous


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