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the truth 11-04-2013 07:23 PM

this is not making enough headline news. the news is always poisoned by infinite pro feminist agendas...the disabled barely get a mention these days, its disgusting

Vicky. 11-04-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5931107)
this is not making enough headline news. the news is always poisoned by infinite pro feminist agendas...the disabled barely get a mention these days, its disgusting

It wont make the news, because its proof that the government are ****ing the disabled. Too many like the believe the official line of 'the genuine disabled have nothing to fear' and bury their heads in the sand to what is happening to the 'genuine disabled'..preferring instead to believe that everyone who is kicked off disability benefits was a fraud. Its not the case at all.

http://tompride.wordpress.com/2013/0...-please-share/

joeysteele 11-04-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5931229)
It wont make the news, because its proof that the government are ****ing the disabled. Too many like the believe the official line of 'the genuine disabled have nothing to fear' and bury their heads in the sand to what is happening to the 'genuine disabled'..preferring instead to believe that everyone who is kicked off disability benefits was a fraud. Its not the case at all.

http://tompride.wordpress.com/2013/0...-please-share/

I think I am just going to start a copy and paste as to ''I agree with Vicky''.
You are 100% Spot on again.

Few are taking the time to really find out just what this rotten Govt are really doing to the genuine sick and disabled in the name of reform.
Actually it is more like an attempt at cleansing than reform.

the truth 11-04-2013 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5931229)
It wont make the news, because its proof that the government are ****ing the disabled. Too many like the believe the official line of 'the genuine disabled have nothing to fear' and bury their heads in the sand to what is happening to the 'genuine disabled'..preferring instead to believe that everyone who is kicked off disability benefits was a fraud. Its not the case at all.

http://tompride.wordpress.com/2013/0...-please-share/

I read that labour introduced a new law which meant if the disabled adapted a car to drive, they were then not allowed to transfer the adaptations to any other car, even if its virtually identical. that law meant each time a disabled person buys a car it costs them around £2000 on top to adapt it.

the disabled are always ripped off, ive spent a fortune on making some of my taxis and buses wheelchair access....the expense is a national disgrace....its cost more than some vehicles are worth to adapt them properly

Vicky. 11-04-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5931244)
I read that labour introduced a new law which meant if the disabled adapted a car to drive, they were then not allowed to transfer the adaptations to any other car, even if its virtually identical. that law meant each time a disabled person buys a car it costs them around £2000 on top to adapt it.

the disabled are always ripped off, ive spent a fortune on making some of my taxis and buses wheelchair access....the expense is a national disgrace....its cost more than some vehicles are worth to adapt them properly

Hmm I'm not sure on that. My friends father gets a car as part of his DLA (he choses to have the car instead of extra money) and the cars he got a choice of cars that were already adapted.

Edit. I think I read your post wrong :p No idea about this law. I dont see how that would work..it would be discrimination, surely?

the truth 11-04-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5931252)
Hmm I'm not sure on that. My friends father gets a car as part of his DLA (he choses to have the car instead of extra money) and the cars he got a choice of cars that were already adapted.

Edit. I think I read your post wrong :p No idea about this law. I dont see how that would work..it would be discrimination, surely?

I know what Ive said is 100% accurate ITS A FACT. Im tlaking about if a person wants to buy a normal car and get it adapted himself. he has to do this every time, rather than move controls.

also the wheelchair webbing alone in our taxis runs to over £1000 , the electric ramps cost between £2500 and £4000 installed

Vicky. 11-04-2013 08:29 PM

This is all I can find on adaptions

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.g...ce/DG_10028001

Thats from 2008 so labour would still have been in then. Seems they helped disabled people adapt their vehicles via the motibility scheme?


Anyway. ATOS were given their contract by labour to begin with. So they are kinda to blame for whats going on now. However, not fully. The tests were never as draconian as they are now. The coalition tightened the guidelines SO much when they realised people were 'sicker than expected' that now you pretty much have to be a corpse to pass the medicals.


The disabled get the ****ty end of the stick whoever is in power tbh. But it seems worse right now than ever before.

joeysteele 11-04-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5931269)
This is all I can find on adaptions

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.g...ce/DG_10028001

Thats from 2008 so labour would still have been in then. Seems they helped disabled people adapt their vehicles via the motibility scheme?


Anyway. ATOS were given their contract by labour to begin with. So they are kinda to blame for whats going on now. However, not fully. The tests were never as draconian as they are now. The coalition tightened the guidelines SO much when they realised people were 'sicker than expected' that now you pretty much have to be a corpse to pass the medicals.


The disabled get the ****ty end of the stick whoever is in power tbh. But it seems worse right now than ever before.

Definitely far worse now Vicky, Duncan Smith has taken these assessments now to a whole new and unacceptable cruel level.

the truth 11-04-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5931269)
This is all I can find on adaptions

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.g...ce/DG_10028001

Thats from 2008 so labour would still have been in then. Seems they helped disabled people adapt their vehicles via the motibility scheme?


Anyway. ATOS were given their contract by labour to begin with. So they are kinda to blame for whats going on now. However, not fully. The tests were never as draconian as they are now. The coalition tightened the guidelines SO much when they realised people were 'sicker than expected' that now you pretty much have to be a corpse to pass the medicals.


The disabled get the ****ty end of the stick whoever is in power tbh. But it seems worse right now than ever before.

yea my uncle drives a mobility car but says the choice is too limited so he buys his own choice of car and adapts it with a semi automatic (tiptronic) system and hand controls....that costs him about £2000 but if he wants to sell his peugeot and buy any other vehicle he has to buy all new controls again? even if its the exact same peugeot, labour made it illegal to move the semi automatic and hand controls across... crazy

both governments have failed the disabled....look at disabled access....my uncle cannot get in most buildings still, that includes church, what a disgrace.

Vicky. 12-04-2013 10:49 AM

http://welfarenewsservice.com/atos-i.../#.UWhWzErpcZT

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Atos Healthcare have paid out £2,000 + costs (in the process of being finalised) in an out-of-court settlement of a disability discrimination claim arising from an Employment & Support Allowance Work Capability Assessment (WCA) in August 2011. As far as I have been able to find out it is one of the first Equality Act discrimination claims from a benefit claimant that Atos have faced.
I am so glad this guy won his case. I hope there are many more inspired to challenge this disgusting company.

However I fear IDS will just rush through some more emergency legislation to stop this (people winning cases) happening again. Just like he did with the worfare case :bored:

the truth 12-04-2013 10:51 AM

meanwhile not one banker has gone to jail

King Gizzard 11-09-2013 08:59 PM



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