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the truth 17-07-2012 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vortex (Post 5311360)
I just hope that woman is never invited again to the show, BB alone is a mess at this point, BOTS doesn't need to follow the same path.

bots has been garbage beyond description thiis season, emma willis is part of the problem too, she encourages morons and moronic behaviour...she also is biased against hetrosexual male housemates imho

Cherie 17-07-2012 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5310527)
I doubt emma gives a fook, Emma doesn't strike me as the most socially or politically aware person.

Did you actually see it? Emma handled the comment very well.

lostalex 17-07-2012 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CherieB (Post 5311435)
Did you actually see it? Emma handled the comment very well.

no i havn't seen it yet

Cherie 17-07-2012 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5311439)
no i havn't seen it yet

I was impressed with Emma, I think you will be too!

lostalex 17-07-2012 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CherieB (Post 5311442)
I was impressed with Emma, I think you will be too!

I've just watched it. And i watched the show from the beginning, and trying to pick out who in the audience would make such a transphobic comment, and i'm ashamed to say that i got it totally wrong. I picked the older white lady in the back row, thinking, yes, she looks like the transphobic person. I was shocked when i saw who it actually was. turns out it was a young(ish) black woman. Proves you can't assume anything. I actually feel guilty for thinking it was gonna be the older white lady.

It just proves that prejudice is BS.

I agree that the audience and Emma responded appropriately, I hope that woman isn't allowed back on BOTS.

joeysteele 17-07-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5311229)
Luke A was never a woman. he was born genetically female. If you think having a vag is all there is to being a woman then you don't know much. Gender identity is not just about yur physiology. Luke A had female physiology as a child yes, but before puberty there is really very little difference between boys and girls.

I can't tell if you are genuinely ignorant on this topic, or if you are trolling. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are genuinely ignorant.

The good news is that we live in the information age, and you can easily do some research to educate yourself about gender identity.

Great post, excellent points and very well said, one of the best posts I have seen on tibb anywhere.Well said Lostalex.

Kizzy 17-07-2012 09:10 AM

I was shocked by this comment, emma handled it well. Doubt that audience member will be invited back ever haha.

Livia 17-07-2012 11:02 AM

If the woman who made the comment had found herself on the end of a racist comment, she'd have been jumping up and down with rage.

Luke A has probably been through all the sh1t in the world and heard it all at least twice. Had he been in the studio he probably would have handled the comment with the dignity he obviously has to have come this far. And if people want to make iffy comments about him, let's face it, it says far more about them than it says about Luke.

lostalex 17-07-2012 11:10 AM

i did notice Emma didn't respond until she heard the audience reaction.

Kizzy 17-07-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5311729)
i did notice Emma didn't respond until she heard the audience reaction.

I don't think so it was pretty instant, she was a bit taken aback is all.

Grotbags 17-07-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5311729)
i did notice Emma didn't respond until she heard the audience reaction.

To be fair to Emma, I think she took a beat to respond because of the shock of what the woman said. Emma did seem quite disgusted with the comment.

I agree that the woman should have been removed from the audience. I was shocked when it came back from the break and she was still there.

thesheriff443 17-07-2012 12:28 PM

whats is so shocking?
the facts are luke was born a woman and is still a woman in his mind he feels he is a man and wants to be know as a man.
im not against transexuals and people can live how they choose but it dont matter how opened minded you are the facts are the facts.

lostalex 17-07-2012 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5311847)
whats is so shocking?
the facts are luke was born a woman and is still a woman in his mind he feels he is a man and wants to be know as a man.
im not against transexuals and people can live how they choose but it dont matter how opened minded you are the facts are the facts.

Those arn't the facts though, that's where you are tragically ignorant. You obviously don't know ANYTHING about the FACTS when it comes to this. Please inform us which internationally recognized science journal you have gotten these facts from. Because everything you've just said goes against all recognized science that i've read. so please, give us your source.

Livia 17-07-2012 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5311847)
whats is so shocking?
the facts are luke was born a woman and is still a woman in his mind he feels he is a man and wants to be know as a man.
im not against transexuals and people can live how they choose but it dont matter how opened minded you are the facts are the facts.

Being open minded is one thing. Allowing someone to ridicule someone else in the hope of getting a cheap laugh is another.

thesheriff443 17-07-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5311849)
Those arn't the facts though, that's where you are tragically ignorant. You obviously don't know ANYTHING about the FACTS when it comes to this.

so are you saying luke was not born a female?

lostalex 17-07-2012 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5311856)
so are you saying luke was not born a female?

Luke is not a Woman.

thesheriff443 17-07-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5311853)
Being open minded is one thing. Allowing someone to ridicule someone else in the hope of getting a cheap laugh is another.

it was a cheap laugh and in the end the women was made to look stupid.

lostalex 17-07-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5311870)
it was a cheap laugh and in the end the women was made to luke stupid.

so you accept then that you also look stupid, because you've said things every bit as ignorant as her.

thesheriff443 17-07-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5311867)
don't get yur hopes up, obviously he has multiple accounts, say hello to "thesheriff443"

there is only one of me!
i have no axe to grind on this subject or want to cause drama my moto is live and let live but in the same breath i am not afraid to discuss this subject.

thesheriff443 17-07-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5311873)
so you accept then that you also look stupid, because you've said things every bit as ignorant as her.

what have i said that was ignorant? all i have done is expressed my opinion as you have yours the problem is i accept your opinion but you wont accept mine.

lostalex 17-07-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5311878)
there is only one of me!
i have no axe to grind on this subject or want to cause drama my moto is live and let live but in the same breath i am not afraid to discuss this subject.

I don't understand why you think there is anything to discuss.

It's like saying you'd like to discuss if grass is green, but you are color blind.

We've told you the grass is green, and you can't see it. what is there to discuss?

thesheriff443 17-07-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5311888)
I don't understand why you think there is anything to discuss.

It's like saying you'd like to discuss if grass is green, but you are color blind.

We've told you the grass is green, and you can't see it. what is there to discuss?

to be fair who are you or anyone else to tell me that the grass is green thats like me saying to luke a your a woman accept it.

Marc 17-07-2012 12:45 PM

He'll be evicted soon, this thread will become obsolete soon.

MTVN 17-07-2012 12:57 PM

What's the problem with accepting he's a man though, he feels he has always been one, he's had/is having surgery to that effect and he's only ever been presented to us as male, there's no reason to consider him otherwise

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 5311827)
How long is ElProximo banned for this time?

Just a day for now

Marc 17-07-2012 02:20 PM

Didn't know that was famous at all.

Can we bring this thread back around to it's actual purpose, discussing the transphobic comment on BOTS.


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