dreadful person

The thing I find most repulsive about Harvey is his constant taking of the moral high ground on fidelity, appropriate feminine conduct, flirting etc, when he has done so so much worse. Where does he get off judging other people's conduct when he has been a vile, cheating cowardly little turd with the women in his life?

I completely agree with you. Also, he is so fake trying to be have that funny guy persona. Guess what, aint working Harvey! :nono:
He bitchs constantly about Julie and he tries to make HAM turn their back against the people he dislikes (even though he can only really influenc thick Ashley).
He'll get what he deserves in the final - a 5th or 6th place and some boos.

and julie doesn't do that to everybody? double standards. :nono:

Well Martin is all about how it looks. When Julian told the group they were way out of line Martin would think they were looking bad for ganging up on Julie.

It wasn't about Julie. What happened last night we don't see till tonight.

I agree, Martin has never forgotton that he is being filmed, I suppose it is hard to blame him, future roles could be dictated by how he is perceived in there, but apart from being a nice guy we have learned nothing about him. Maybe that is exactly what he is...a nice guy.

He did not reveal Julie. Coleen was the first to start on Julie and second was Martin. He has been briefing about Julie for over a week.
Harvey's first targets were the younger women because they were not attracted to him. 'Get the titties out' is not the sound of reason. It was only a matter of time before he nommed the older women and he chose Julie because like everyone else he heard the Boos. Apart from Coleen only Lorenzo was nominating Julie.

I agree with this. Martin is a nice person and his son said he was just like that at home. When you have recovered from two brain tumours I imagine it is hard to get upset or angry about what is after all a game. He warned the boys that Julie could do what she does because of the character she had played as Bette. Neither of those boys would ever have seen her in that role. He was thinking of their future.
However what I do not agree with is following the pack and I am glad that Julian was the one housemate to stand up for Julie.

Well why bother go in there some might ask, if you are not prepared to be real honest, warts 'n all because you scared a side of you might come out which could be at odds with your carefully crafted persona, then fine Don't risk it in the first place.

Just move along and let someone else go in who will be real.

harvey was the one that revealed it to the group though, about what himself and lorenzo heard from in the gym. I don't think targetting the girls was intentional, he just saw them as being in the wrong because ashley is his friend. while I don't think rhian did anything do, I don't believe danica was innocent. and now targetting julie is completely understandable after what they've heard her saying.

Harvey is just nasty ,the stunt he pulled today with the shopping he would never have done if noms were still to be done .
He took three packs of cigs of the shopping so he could get his suit cleaned.When the shopping was delivered Colleen took three of the packs.I so hate her /Ash/Harvey

I guess he went in for the money? dont they all....some are mentally stronger than others...I give you Leo Sawyer as a prime example of a star who was made a laughing stock. dont think we have seen him since...:joker: