Originally Posted by arista (Post 5552586)

Yes the Pleb has Fallen on his Sword


Potty Mouth Lesson

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5503455)

This is a total storm in a *******ing teacup, so a Minister had a bad day in the office and took it out on policeman who wouldn't open the gate to let him through with his bike. So a few angry words may have been exchanged , he may have even used the P word.

So what...!!!! Nobody cares it's a minor matter between two adults NOT an International news event tying up half the worlds media when there are other more important news stories not being covered or disclosed to the Public.

What is it with our Society with these political non stories, I mean should a Man an M.P a Minister a man who clearly has something to offer , resign from his post because he called a policeman a pleb ??? Seriously c'mon folks our society is going down the toilet and we are devoting precious time energy and resources on this nonsense..!!!

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5553910)

Seems like I got this wrong, thought common sense would prevail and this would blow over after the apologies. But now it looks like the Minister in question has resigned over this. He was almost certainly pushed and I wonder what was used as leverage in this case. Perhaps he was promised a way back in after the next re-shuffle. Still think its odd that he actually resigned over this.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5553929)

He did David Cameron no favours by staying on so long. It still remains though that he clearly did nothing that resulted in his arrest for anything he said. So for me it is unfair someone loses their status in such a scenario.

Maybe had he said he did use the word, it might have gone away,as it is you have him in effect saying the Police are lying as to the words used and they in effect saying he is too.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5552727)

Is he good at his job? Yes. Should he have said what he did? No. Did he apologise unreservedly, and personally to the officer on the receiving end? Yes. Did the police take any action? No. Is this insult going to devastate the copper he said it to forever? Erm... no. Massive storm in a little teacup.

Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 5553958)

what a disgusting nation we've become, when a man has to resign from his job just for having an opinion.

Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 5553958)

what a disgusting nation we've become, when a man has to resign from his job just for having an opinion.

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 5553960)

Some of the police ARE plebs,and from what I have read ,he said he didn't call them that,so do we believe the police or him,obviously if you dont like the Tories you will believe the police,but some of them are as corrupt as some of the ministers,you'de think they would have something better to do than pursue him for that,lol,what a silly thing to lose your job over.

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5553961)

What opinion did he have?
And how can the nation be blamed for his resignation? haha!

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5553962)

What's your opinion of your boss?

If it's derogatory, tell him/her and see how long you keep your job "for having an opinion"

:joker:

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 5553960)

Some of the police ARE plebs,and from what I have read ,he said he didn't call them that,so do we believe the police or him,obviously if you dont like the Tories you will believe the police,but some of them are as corrupt as some of the ministers,you'de think they would have something better to do than pursue him for that,lol,what a silly thing to lose your job over.

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 5553960)

Some of the police ARE plebs,and from what I have read ,he said he didn't call them that,so do we believe the police or him,obviously if you dont like the Tories you will believe the police,but some of them are as corrupt as some of the ministers,you'de think they would have something better to do than pursue him for that,lol,what a silly thing to lose your job over.

Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 5553964)

if you didn't know his a opinion was that police are plebs, is that a crime?

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5553976)

I suggest you test your theory..
Walk up to a police officer and call him a pleb, see what happens.

Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 5553981)

i cant imagine much would happen, they would probably laugh about it, i know for a fact i wouldn't have to resign from my job.

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5553974)

Obviously if you don't like the tories you will believe the police?..
Why is this then, I would like to believe whoever is telling the truth but we only have one account to put up for examination as Mr Mitchell is unwilling to admit what he said.
Should that make him guilty by default, what other option do we have...sweep it under the carpet?
No, it is important that as a representative of the UK government he is held accountable.
I would love everyone who suggests the police are plebs to do their job for a week..
This type pf comment proves the danger behind this attitude, the public viewing the police as incompetent jobsworths, undermining the progress made between communities and the police over several years.

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5553974)

Obviously if you don't like the tories you will believe the police?..
Why is this then, I would like to believe whoever is telling the truth but we only have one account to put up for examination as Mr Mitchell is unwilling to admit what he said.
Should that make him guilty by default, what other option do we have...sweep it under the carpet?
No, it is important that as a representative of the UK government he is held accountable.
I would love everyone who suggests the police are plebs to do their job for a week..
This type pf comment proves the danger behind this attitude, the public viewing the police as incompetent jobsworths, undermining the progress made between communities and the police over several years.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5553969)

It's incredibly disturbing that we live in a society whereby a policeman initially kicking up a fuss over a heated exchange of words, can result in someone losing their job through an alleged insult and the frenzy caused by this resignation means people are out celebrating & rejoicing- yet a policeman who tasers a blind man is not subject to the same amount of witch hunt and treatment.

What a bizarre place the UK is.

Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 5553990)

guilty of what? calling someone a pleb, get over yourself, there's people in this country that dont know where their next penny's coming from and your condemming a man for calling someone a pleb.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5553989)

Hillsborough.
Blind man tasered.

2 very recent examples in the press showing just how incompetent the police are (and if you take the JSaville situ into it, you can add all of those police who were involved into that mix).
The very same can be said of many: including Mr Mitchell but I've yet to have it confirmed where his incompetency lies?

As for him having to be held accountable. He was. He admitted it, he apologised, policeman accepted apology - and no doubt he also received a dressing down from the PM - that's what's called accountability. That should have been the end of it.

Wanting someone to lose their job & rejoicing over it, for having a heated exchange of words, with absolutly no proof of him calling the copper a pleb - is beyond any rationale - imo of course.