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Black Dagger 04-11-2012 09:29 PM

Rylan is an entertainer...

Kye tried being lively and charismatic last night and still couldn't manage it. Yes his music from before the show is nice. But he's not got the gift of selling music.

Whereas Rylan is a TV personality and worthy of air-time.

thesheriff443 04-11-2012 09:32 PM

kye could sell music if he works in hmv.

thesheriff443 04-11-2012 09:33 PM

mock your starting to sound like chris and his granny,lol

Tom4784 04-11-2012 09:34 PM

I actually thought Rylan did better in the sing off but that's possibly due to the shock of realising that he can actually somewhat sing. The problem with Kye is that he is dull and uninteresting.

joeysteele 04-11-2012 09:53 PM

I don't blame Tulisa at all, she has championed Rylan from the start,she decided to take it to deadlock and after all his huffing and puffing, it is Gary not Tulisa who needs to look at his situation on X Factor.
His acts have for some reason polled the least votes cast in their weeks in the bottom 2 when deadlock has been the way it was decided who goes out.
Therefore whatever he has done with his acts,he has not done enough to connect them to the public and get the public voting for them enough.

Gary also needs to re-assess his position as to Christopher, every single one of the 3 acts Gary put through to the live finals have came bottom of the poll likely in their weeks going out, they are all gone.
The only one he now has is the one he himself actually chose not to put through.
That says a lot for his judging,mentoring and song selection skills in my opinion.

Having said that, I was stunned Kye was in the bottom 2 at all,he was for me the best of the night last night but in the end he got the least votes from the public and if he is getting the least votes from the public now, it would not indicate that he would do well from X factor as the Winner.
Kye may well do much better now going out at this stage than be forced to sing songs of Gary's choosing that the voting public clearly don't like him doing, that in the end is Gary's fault,not Tulisa's.

Mrluvaluva 04-11-2012 09:55 PM

Tulisa never had any credibility and she just gets worse as the weeks go by. For me, Kye had a much better voice, and I think he has improved a hell of a lot.

Mystic Mock 04-11-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 5589205)
Rylan has more potential in the market than Kye does

The Presenter market maybe but not the singing market.

Mystic Mock 04-11-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5589389)
I actually thought Rylan did better in the sing off but that's possibly due to the shock of realising that he can actually somewhat sing. The problem with Kye is that he is dull and uninteresting.

Rylan squealed in the sing-off, that is not singing imo.

And no matter what anyone thinks of Kye how can you call him boring when Jahmene is still in the competition with his screechy voice screeching at us?

Munchkins 04-11-2012 10:36 PM

Each judge likes to have the joke act when it suits them
plain and simple
no judge has credibility

Ramsay 04-11-2012 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 5589648)
The Presenter market maybe but not the singing market.

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 5589234)
Jedward cant sing for **** but they have made a **** load of money out of doing so..Rylan could do the same but Kye wont be doing anything after this and he had no chance to win he's just too generic

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Me. I Am Salman 04-11-2012 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 5589234)
Jedward cant sing for **** but they have made a **** load of money out of doing so..Rylan could do the same but Kye wont be doing anything after this and he had no chance to win he's just too generic

As harsh as it sounds the only reason why a lot of people find Rylan 'entertaining' is because every week he makes a fool of himself and it's fun to laugh at. Who would actually buy his records? And who in their right mind would give him a presenting job?

Jedward however, as irritating as they were, had a big teenage fanbase, and were much more quirky & different. With Rylan we've seen it all before - TOWIE, Katie Price etc.

Mrluvaluva 04-11-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 5589659)
Rylan squealed in the sing-off, that is not singing imo.

And no matter what anyone thinks of Kye how can you call him boring when Jahmene is still in the competition with his screechy voice screeching at us?

Jahmene, for me, is actually one of the better singers in the competition. He has an awful lot of soul in his voice for one so young. He could go on to great things. Why do you find him screechy? Do you not think he hits the high notes well?

Mystic Mock 04-11-2012 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 5589939)
Jahmene, for me, is actually one of the better singers in the competition. He has an awful lot of soul in his voice for one so young. He could go on to great things. Why do you find him screechy? Do you not think he hits the high notes well?

He sounds like a strangled cat imo, and no I don't think he hits the high notes that well.

Mrluvaluva 05-11-2012 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 5589941)
He sounds like a strangled cat imo, and no I don't think he hits the high notes that well.

Ok. I was interested to know. We obviously hear things differently.

Z 05-11-2012 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 5589917)
As harsh as it sounds the only reason why a lot of people find Rylan 'entertaining' is because every week he makes a fool of himself and it's fun to laugh at. Who would actually buy his records? And who in their right mind would give him a presenting job?

Jedward however, as irritating as they were, had a big teenage fanbase, and were much more quirky & different. With Rylan we've seen it all before - TOWIE, Katie Price etc.

You're right, but I think you're missing the point. Rylan appeals to the same demographic that gives those people their careers - evidently they are the same people watching X Factor. Most of this year's contestants are utter crap and won't sell records. It has nothing to do with talent and everything to do with marketability. Marcus Collins came 2nd last year, is a fantastic singer and performer, and yet falls flat on his face as a popstar. Not one of this year's contestants are popstars. Ella, Jahmene and James all have nice voices, but they're not going to be successful popstars. Rylan will end up having one of the most, if not the most, successful careers off the back of this show - he has a personality and evidently people like it enough to have voted him this far. Kye on the other hand - nice voice, but a boring performer. He just doesn't have 'it', whatever 'it' is. I'm surprised Christopher Maloney is still in the competition and I'm surprised both the boy bands are there too. I wouldn't be surprised if District 3 and Chris both crash out before Rylan, followed by Union J.


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