Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5656272)

Ive already addressed your last point which is nonsense. how can you enforce wages laws on performance related pay/ commission jobs? You cant its up to how good the person is, how reliable the person is and also how dedictaed to the career they are long term. also have you studied why women are more likely to job hop and dont last in jobs on average as long as men? this doesnt offer employers much chance and costs them money to retrain people endlessly. why should employers keep spending thousands of their own money because female employees are on average less reliable? is this discrimination? no its fact, do your homework. stop preaching theory and look at the reality

If women get pregnant often to milk benefits, its up to them and the fathers to take care of those children. woman are luckythough as they know they can always fall back on a lifetime of benefits whilst getting Csa payments too. no wonder they have all the spending power and so little ambition

now while you pretend to be offended and pretend something Ive said is sexist which it isnt and whilst you continue to cruelly ignore all the male sufferings and suicides. Id ask you, how often has a women fixed your electricity in a power cut? how often has a women fixed your gas leak? how often has a women safed you or any of your friends and relatives from a burning building or cut you out of a car? how man women do you know who lost limbs in wars? how many women do you know who fix roads and tarmac them>? how many women do you know who build your walls, fix your roof, build your home? while youre thinking of a clever answer to avoid the question, Ill save you time, the answer is probably not far from zero

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5656334)

Well... here we have the crux of the problem, where I have tried to answer you with reasoned responses.
This post seems to be nothing but an attack on women in general..
I am not offended, if thats your view then theres really nothing else to discuss is there?

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5656369)

I can back things up with practical examples and actual evidence, you clearly cannot

Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 5655950)

I agree with this, I'm just saying though that alot of ethnic criminals can have it in for white people in general, especially the women more than anything though so I do think The Truth's argument is a bit invalid but I do see where his coming from that not all white men are racists pigs.

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5656811)

Are you suggesting that in both ethnic groups there are people that are stupid and ignorant redway?....interesting....

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5656316)

Firstly, can I say If you have proof that one gender is favoured over another you post
a link to this?
I have no idea why more young men choose not to go into teaching as there are no incentives for women over men as far as I know and they would be welcomed as positive male role models in some areas....
Socialization may have a part to play in why girls do better in schools than boys?
Peer pressure I would say plays a big part in that in inner city areas.
Children are now to stay at school or college till 18, they are encouraged much more now than ever before.
And having the 'integrity' to mention suicide rates of young men it is not right or fair to suggest that by not raising this members are ignorant to the plight of men affected...
There is a lot of help and information for men who are depressed due to many personal, social or mental issues.

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5656326)

That is wrong, there is cases of council workers in yorkshire being found to be paid less.
I am not able to post links atm, but I assure you there is evidence of discrimination there.
There are traditionally male dominated professions... I don't understand what that has to do with this discussion?
However, the women in these jobs are as qualified as males in their professions obviously.

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5656780)

I agree with this. What I hate about black people is how homophobic and hypocritical they are and you're right that they make ridiculous comments about white people and gays...I'm not saying that all blacks are like that but I agree that it's a bit biased to have a go at white people when other ethnic groups are probably just as bad. Yes, not all black people are like that but a large proportion are, at the very minimum just as much as whites.

Edit - and don't even get me started on the "it's just cuz am black" thing. :bored:

Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 5658569)

I definitely agree with the bit in bold in particular, how they think The Police (who have alot of black Police Officers now) will arrest them because of the colour of there skin is quite ridiculous, if anyone gets arrested then there must be evidence.

Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 5658604)

Now I agree with everything you've said there The Truth, I do think some people can blindly ignore when a black or asian person can be racist but when it's a white person being racist they get attacked.

If people weren't so scared of arresting black and asian people for hate crimes (like when the 3 muslim girls beat up the white girl and called her a white slag) then we probably could stop racism more, but the law is hopeless at stopping murderers, rapists, and paedophiles so this country will never be sorting out prejudice anytime soon until the 3 main crimes get better sentencing.

Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 5658642)

I'm not up on all the stats but I always find that if anything bad happens to a white girl (or any girl for that matter but especially white girls) the criminal always seems to get off in this country for the most ridiculous of reasons.

But I do feel that when any man get's sexually assaulted The Police and the civilians of the UK should take it more seriously than they do, myself included as when True Blood touched on the subject and I laughed at it then I realised that it really happens and that I'm glad True Blood highlighted it in a way, although they also treated it like a laughing matter which is shocking even for that show.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5656801)

Actually thinking about it it is quite rare to see a male primary school teacher. However senior schools seem dominated by men, our school most certainly was, there was about 30 male teachers and 5 female. I wonder why that is.

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5658760)

..because it's the best route to think ahead and further their career Vicky...it's actually very difficult to step up from a primary school...and males just don't apply.. we've only got one male teacher..but actually he's a brilliant teacher...the children absolutely adore him....it is a shame there aren't more...

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5658539)

can you prvide back up for all your claims here and throughout this thread? There is very little support and help for males in any of these situations. Clearly in male dominated profressions we have seen years of peer pressure and legislation brought in to redress the balance. yet not with teaching of children? are you in favour of positive discrimination or quota systems so only men can apply for certain teaching positions?

as regards the fact men work long longer and achieve more in a vast number of career paths, there are a lot of reasons, sadly this hasnt been studied properly because the analysis has been hujacked by the hysteria of the millitant feminists. straight honest truth and facts need to be addressed.

the fact is the overall male wage is higher than women over the whole nation because overall men have worked longer and harder in far more career areas. the solution according to feminists is to denigrade all men for this. wrong. the only solution is for women to become better and to work harder and yes to try and allow them an opportunity to share their paternal duties. this has been damaged as the family courts are so biased towards mothers, they in effect close out fathers. the end result, everyone loses, the fathers, the children, the grandparents and the mother herself....this is the problem that grows when the culture and the law is biased towards one sex. the law must be fair , balanced and blind to gender

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5658593)

there is a larger proportion of black people stopped and searched than white.
however the police are so frustrated as the law is clearly biased in favour of black people. if any word is said and is deemed racist agisnt a black person, the white person is destroyed. butwhat of the abuse against the white man? didnt jermaine jackson call some white people white trash on big brother? nothing was said. take shilpa gate, whilst I agree she was bullied , so too was dirk benedict. he was mocked fo rhaving cancer, having impotence through cancer, moced for being a former alcoholic, yet nothing was ever said...the bias in law and in culture makes the policeman/woman even more frustrated and angry

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5656242)

Lies.

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas (Post 5658859)

I do think the police are terrified of any bad press, that has gone some way to explaining why the abuses discovered in Rochdale were allowed to fester as long as they were.
There are people hammering home the message that most sexual abuse cases are by white males, however when you consider that the men involved in these cases are in an ethnic minority group who account for only 8% of the population, then the proportionality shows that there is a problem.