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Ammi 16-02-2013 03:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5834226)
If there really was a 10 minute break between shots, then he's as guilty as can be.
..some reports are saying that the shots were through a bathroom door..which doesn't really sound like an accidental/intruder type thing...but there's so much trial by media these days, we can't know anything until the trial..innocent until proved guilty....

Omah 16-02-2013 09:33 AM
Pistorius 'carried dying Reeva Steenkamp downstairs and tried to resuscitate her'
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...itate-her.html

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Miss Steenkamp, 29, an FHM covergirl, is said to have still been breathing when security guards and neighbours arrived at Pistorius' house in the early hours of St Valentine's Day, but was pronounced dead by paramedics who arrived shortly afterwards.

Sources told Beeld, the Afrikaans language newspaper, that security guards who heard the shots and rushed to the house saw the Paralympic gold medalist was seen running down the stairs with the blonde model in his arms.

Paramedics who arrived shortly afterwards were unable to revive her.

She had been shot four times, in the head, chest and hand, through the bathroom door. Initial reports suggested Pistorius fired the fatal shots believing she was an intruder, although the claim has since been played down by police.

Neighbours and security guards at the exclusive Silver Woods Country Estate, to the east of Pretoria, are reported by Beeld to have heard Miss Steenkamp's last, ragged breaths.

Blood spatters ran along the route Pistorius is said to have carried his girlfriend as he sought help, and bloody towels lay on the floor where police found her when they arrived moments later, the paper said.

Forensic teams are still working at the luxury home of the double amputee, until this week one of South Africa's most celebrated heroes.

They are reported to have removed the bullet-marked bathroom door as evidence. According to the paper's source, they apparently believe that Miss Steenkamp was sitting on the lavatory when she was shot.

Police spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Katlego Mogale refused to confirm or deny the claims when questioned by Beeld, saying they formed part of the police investigation.
WTF ?

:eek:

Jack_ 16-02-2013 09:43 AM
Why would you shoot someone through a door? This case just gets stranger.

arista 16-02-2013 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5835461)
Why would you shoot someone through a door? This case just gets stranger.

He wanted her Dead
but did not want to see her face.

Kizzy 16-02-2013 09:57 AM
What kind of intruder breaks in and goes for a wee? ...not looking good is it?

lostalex 16-02-2013 10:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5835461)
Why would you shoot someone through a door? This case just gets stranger.
um, justa a wild guess, but i'm thinking she was trying to get away from him by locking herself in the bathroom, and then, he went to the bedroom, got a gun, and Murdered her.

Omah 16-02-2013 11:27 AM
Oscar Pistorius 'on suicide watch' after being charged with girlfriend's murder
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...-after-1712831

Quote:
Blade Runner Oscar Pistorius has been placed on suicide watch after being accused of murdering his model girlfriend in cold blood.

Police in South Africa are said to have concerns over the Paralympian's mental state after he sobbed uncontrollably during his first court appearance yesterday.

He was refused bail and is reportedly being monitored closely in his police cell amid fears he is struggling to cope with his emotions.
A man of extremes, obviously ..... :suspect:

Quote:
During a preliminary hearing in Pretoria yesterday, the court heard Steenkamp was blasted four times – in the head, arm, waist and one bullet smashed through her fingers as she put her hand up to defend herself.
:sad:

arista 16-02-2013 11:44 AM
"one bullet smashed through her fingers as she put her hand up to defend herself. "


Yes he went Evil

arista 16-02-2013 03:48 PM
Maybe he was Upset
as she was going to be a Top Star on TV.

They are showing a special on SA TV
that she made just a few weeks ago.
The family has said ok


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...49_634x765.jpg
This was taken just last Thursday

arista 16-02-2013 05:19 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...58_634x334.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...42_306x423.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...22_306x457.jpg


From the SA TV special shown today

Omah 17-02-2013 08:36 AM
Oscar Pistorius shot Reeva Steenkamp 'on instinct', his father says
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ther-says.html

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Henke Pistorius, 59, told The Sunday Telegraph that his family had "zero doubt" that Mr Pistorius had shot Reeva Steenkamp dead mistakenly thinking she was intruder.

"When you are a sportsman, you act even more on instinct," he said. "It's instinct - things happen and that's what you do."
Shoot first, ask questions later, eh ..... :rolleyes:

arista 17-02-2013 08:39 AM
They were not there
there was Shouting going on.


He is Evil and Guilty

Ammi 17-02-2013 09:13 AM
..the only other person that was there is unable to relay the truth...the courts will decide now, based on any evidence they have and let's hope that justice is served on the true events of that day...


..it all sounds quite strange, like a storyline from Columbo or something but that doesn't mean that he is guilty of murder, or that it was accidental either...the court will make it's decision and in the eyes of the law, that ruling will be what happened....

Jack_ 17-02-2013 03:30 PM
There's now talk that there was a bloodied cricket bat found at the scene :o

Quote:
Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5835481)
um, justa a wild guess, but i'm thinking she was trying to get away from him by locking herself in the bathroom, and then, he went to the bedroom, got a gun, and Murdered her.
Drop the attitude.

Omah 17-02-2013 03:39 PM
Bloodied cricket bat found at Paralympic athlete's home
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...etes-home.html

Quote:
Local reports stated police believe he may have used the bat to attack girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp before shooting her dead on St Valentine's Day morning.

Detectives are working on two other theories concerning the bat: that it was either used to break down the door of the bathroom where she hid, or that she used it to defend herself against Mr Pistorius, South Africa's City Press reported.

One bullet cartridge was found in the champion sprinter's bedroom and police are looking at whether he "chased" his girlfriend and fired the first shot before she locked herself in the bathroom and he fired three more through the door, the paper said.

A post-mortem examination on the body of the 29-year-old model revealed that as well as bullet wounds to the head, arm, hand and hip, she suffered a fractured skull, it reported.

"There was lots of blood on the bat. Forensic tests will show whose blood it was," one source was quoted as saying.
If these rumours are true, the scenario just gets worse and worse ..... :sad:

Quote:
According to a source cited by City Press, Miss Steenkamp was wearing a nightdress, an overnight bag was found at the house and her iPad was on the bedroom floor.

"It was clear that both of them had slept in the bed," the source added.
The "intruder" now has no substance at all ..... :nono:

On the subject of substances :

Quote:
Police asked for blood taken from Mr Pistorius to be tested for steroids, City Press claimed, in anticipation that his defence team might claim he acted in "roid rage" – an aggressive condition associated with taking large doses of performance-enhancing drugs.
:eek:

From Pistorius Snr:

Quote:
"I have zero doubt (that he thought it was an intruder) – it's totally absurd to even suggest anything different. "When you wake up in the middle of the night – and crime is so endemic in South Africa – what do you do if somebody is in the house? Do you think it's one of your family? Of course you don't," he said.
Just ..... :crazy:

Marc 17-02-2013 03:48 PM
Wow, I can't wait for the verdict on this. I know that sounds sick but this is interesting

arista 17-02-2013 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5837855)
..the only other person that was there is unable to relay the truth...the courts will decide now, based on any evidence they have and let's hope that justice is served on the true events of that day...


..it all sounds quite strange, like a storyline from Columbo or something but that doesn't mean that he is guilty of murder, or that it was accidental either...the court will make it's decision and in the eyes of the law, that ruling will be what happened....
To You, maybe.

But she was going to be a Top TV Star


The Evil Runner Killed her
Fact

Omah 17-02-2013 04:45 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...ting-steenkamp

Quote:
Both sides have engaged legal heavyweights for the Tuesday's court proceedings.

On Pistorius' side is Advocate Barry Roux, the man who, in previous life, prosecuted Roger Kebble, the father of the slain Brett Kebble, in 2005 while he was still a state prosecutor.

In the state's corner, charging Pistorius with the premeditated murder of Reeva Steenkamp, is Advocate Gerrie Nel. He is currently also locked in the prosecution of Chanelle Henning's alleged assassins, former Nigerian Olympic athlete Ambrose Monye and André Gouws. Nel, who is no stranger to controversy, gained fame for his successful prosecution of former national police commissioner, Jackie Selebi. Still, his controversial pact with one of South Africa's biggest drug lords, Glen Agliotti, in order to get to Selebi wasn't very popular with the public.
:idc:

MTVN 17-02-2013 04:50 PM
Keep hoping that it will be shown it was just an accident but the more that comes to light the more suspicious it seems that it was premeditated, I did read today that he shot at the bathroom door just to get access to the bathroom but that would be pretty dumb knowing she was behind there

arista 17-02-2013 04:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5838309)
Keep hoping that it will be shown it was just an accident but the more that comes to light the more suspicious it seems that it was premeditated, I did read today that he shot at the bathroom door just to get access to the bathroom but that would be pretty dumb knowing she was behind there

No he Got Evil.
(and was not in the real world type thinking
as he Shot through her hand as she tried to prfotect her face)


He is going to Prison Forever , soon

Omah 17-02-2013 05:55 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...-charge-family

Quote:
The Paralympian's uncle, Arnold Pistorius, said that forensic evidence from the crime scene shows that he did not knowingly kill Steenkamp. "After consulting with legal representatives, we deeply regret the allegation of premeditated murder," he said, reading an emotional statement at his home in Pretoria on Saturday. "We have no doubt there is no substance to the allegation and that the state's own case, including its own forensic evidence, strongly refutes any possibility of a premeditated murder or indeed any murder at all."
Well, smashing an "intruder" over the head with a cricket bat and then pumping 4 bullets into the fleeing "perp" who had "taken cover" in the bathroom is not entirely "accidental" ..... :rolleyes:

Omah 17-02-2013 10:15 PM
Pistorius Told Friend: 'I've Killed My Baba'
 
http://news.sky.com/story/1053249/pi...killed-my-baba

Quote:
The best friend of Oscar Pistorius has told how the athlete rang him the night his girlfriend was shot and said: "I've killed my Baba. God take me away."

Justin Divaris, who introduced Reeva Steenkamp to the South African gold medallist, said Pistorius was crying down the phone and admitted he had shot the 29-year-old model.

Mr Divaris, 27, said: "Oscar called me at 3.55am saying that Reeva had been shot. I said to him, 'What are you talking about? I don't understand you'.

"He then repeated himself - 'There has been a terrible accident. I shot Reeva'."

Mr Divaris told the Sunday People that he then spoke to a neighbour who was also in the house, who warned: "She's not OK. You need to get here."

By the time he arrived at Pistorius' house on a gated estate in Pretoria, the double amputee was already being held by police.

He could see Miss Steenkamp's body inside the house at the bottom of the stairs, covered in blankets and towels.

Pistorius was being detained in the garage, and was crying and repeating himself incoherently.
:idc:

Munchkins 18-02-2013 12:54 AM
Poor poor girl, such a beautiful girl too :(

Omah 18-02-2013 08:41 AM
Police 'find banned steroids' at Pistorius' house
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/oth...#ixzz2LF3zhbIq

Quote:
Oscar Pistorius will be tested for steriods after the banned drugs were allegedly found in his house after he shot dead his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp.

Police are also reported to have established that model Reeva Steenkamp’s skull had been ‘crushed’.

There was also evidence of heavy drinking before the shooting took place at 3am on Valentine's Day, reports The Sun.
Drugs, drink and guns are not a good combination ..... :eek:

Nedusa 18-02-2013 11:35 AM
Its going to be difficult to prove murder on this one as it would have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt and without concrete evidence or witness evidence it will always be difficult to achieve this.

Maybe he did kill her , maybe their relationship had run out of steam and was on its last legs who knows ? More likely she wanted out and he wasn't happy. but to murder her in a planned pre-meditated way does seem risky, more likely a massive argument and he had a gun to hand and sadly lost the plot and then concocted the intruder story.

Either way very sad all round. He will probably be convicted of involuntary manslaughter and receive a light prison sentence....!!!


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