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OBL did not surrender. If he did, he would have gotten his trial. He choose to continue fighting on the battlefield, and therefore it was absolutely lawful for him to die in the battlefield. |
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Why should he submit himself to a trial by the US, when he beleived them to be the enemy. Can one man "declare war" on a country? Quote:
Its interesting to note that as soon as the "hit" had been confirmed and he had been identified the SEAL left the area without waiting for the local police to investigate. |
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Yes. He had 10 years to surrender. He had plenty of opportunities and chances. He chose instead to hide like a rat, hide like a coward. He was the 21st century Hitler, and he died like the cowardly rat he was. If he believed he was innocent, he could have surrendered himself to the international court system and proven his case, HIS case was only that Americans are evil infidels and that he has every right to kill as many Americans as he could. He was a violent racist piece of ****. |
Strictly speaking I'd say it wasn't legal, no. It was done without consulting Pakistan or getting their consent
I remember Chomsky making an interesting point about the killing; how would people be reacting if Iraqi commandos landed at George W. Bush’s compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic, all while thinking they had no responsibility before the operation to inform anyone about it. (I know it's not a perfect comparison but it's about the principle of violating a states sovereignty to kill someone whom you consider a mass murderer/criminal) |
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George Bush did not attempt a genocide though, George Bush was nothing like Osama Bin Laden, the comparison makes no sense. George Bush was only defending his own people. Osama Bin Laden was trying to impose his fascist islamic beliefs onto the entire world. He was the 21st century Hitler. George Bush was on the defensive, OBL was trying to kill every American. |
Was it Lawful to kill Bin Laden........No of course it wasn't he was never tried convicted and found guilty of any crime. He was shown as the public face of Al-Qaeda a known terrorist organisation but we don't really know what crimes he may or may not have been involved in. Was he involved in 911...who knows ?? there was never any trial so his innocence or guilt could never be proved either way.
If the CIA had overwhelming evidence he was involved then capture him and make him stand trial and if proved guilty then it would be lawful to execute him, but recent events in Pakistan were unlawful in the extreme. |
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And since the CIA and the military had tried to catch him before, but the PAKISTAN military would warn them, because clearly the pakistan military is helping the terrorists, why would the US trust them?? you make no sense. Do you not understand that Pakistan is a terrorist state that supports the taliban?? |
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If Bush's actions were defensive then I would hate to see him on the offensive |
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America has been incredibly restrained in our reaction since 9/11 believe it or not, compared to what we could have done to them, are you kidding" you don't think we could have destroyed them by now? If you don't think we have been restrained in our war, then you very much underestimate the capability of the US military. We could have made every desert in the middle east into glass if we wanted to. |
Oh no I'm sure you could if you wanted to, and I'm sure that you probably do want to
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If you really want to educate yourself, look into how many chinese firms have gotten oil contacts. Look at where that oil is going. Look at who's benefited the most from these wars. It's not America. it's China.
Follow the money. |
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Oh and by the way it makes no sense to describe Pakistan as a terrorist state, they are a Sovereign Nation....!!!!! |
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Pakistan is not a terrorist state, it was thanks to them and with their assistance that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11, was captured there. Ideally that is also how the Bin Laden operation would have been carried out
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They have screwed us over sooo many times. they cannot be trusted. The US had to learn the hard way that the pakistani's cannot be trusted, cause they'll just use us to kill the people they din't like, while still protecting the Taliban. So obviously the Pakistani's cannot be trusted. Pakistan is a ****cake of horribleness, and i don't know how the military even tolerates them at this point. |
It is not a terrorist state though, and they have at times been very valuable to the West assisting in the "war on terror". I don't doubt though that there is a lot of anti-American sentiment among the population and within parts of the establishment itself, little wonder really with all the drone attacks
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They have done that. They told us, bomb this location to get this terrorist, and then it turn out to be a wedding or a mosque or some other civilian place. They do it on purpose. They have screwed us over so many times, they cannot be trusted anymore. If we trusted them about the Bin Laden raid, there's no way we would have got him. They would have warned him. You know that's true. |
What was the incident with the Wedding?
Would you deny that Pakistanis have legitimate reason to also not trust the US? |
i don't give a crap anymore, i'm just saying, we know not to trust Pakistan anymore.
For Bin Laden to be right under their noses for so long, he was literally right next to their biggest military training camp, you won't convince me that they didn't know he was there. America didnt tell them cause we KNOW NOW that PAkistan is not on our side. If we had tried t work with Pakistan on the Osama Bin Laden raid, you know that he would have gotten away. They cannot be trusted period. |
The truth is Muslims think that it's a war of the West against Islam. And plenty of people in their ranks will still be anti-west. no matter how much we try to tell them that it's not a war against Islam. They are brainwashed. like a cult.
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i understand you want to be empathetic Jesus, but really... get real. |
I'm glad Bin Laden is dead, I think killing him was the right thing to do.
Was it lawful? Not by amreican laws, but by Bin Laden's own laws, it probably was. He seemed to think it's fine to kill anyone just to make a point. |
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