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lostalex 08-03-2013 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5874923)
:conf: The flipside of what you said was some people jump at the chance to "shout homophobia", that's the other side of what you said about people jumping at the chance to be homophobic.

Me taking these seriously or not is irrelevant to the point.


but you are basically saying both sides are equal. That both sides are as bad as each other. Both sides are NOT equal. People complaining (or screaming as you put it) about homophobia are telling the truth and standing up for civil rights. The people that are homophobic don't have a point. They are just being bigots. So you can't equate the 2 sides. They are NOT equal.

Tom4784 08-03-2013 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5874914)
wait, so not forcing harmful gender stereotypes on children is a social experiment? It sounds a lot more natural than forcing children into roles they don't belong in just because it's tradition.

That's basically like saying all boys should be circumcised just so they don't get made fun of in the gym locker room. Are you pro-circumcision?

I just think it's confusing for the child, I'm not saying every boy has to play Football and every girl must play with dolls but this method of parenting to me just feels like it'll create more problems then it'll solve.

I'll ignore the rest of your post since that comparison and accusation is pretty ridiculous and laughable.

Marsh. 08-03-2013 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5874925)
but you are basically saying both sides are equal. That both sides are as bad as each other. Both sides are NOT equal. People complaining (or screaming as you put it) about homophobia are telling the truth and standing up for civil rights. The people that are homophobic don't have a point. They are just being bigots. So you can't equate the 2 sides. They are NOT equal.

People screaming homophobia towards people who aren't being homophobic is the equality.

What you just said implies if a gay person says someone is homophobic they are never wrong.

Someone who loves to blame anything on gays is just as bad as someone who loves to get on the defensive and shout "racism", "homophobia" etc.

But we're derailing the thread.

Kizzy 08-03-2013 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5874925)
but you are basically saying both sides are equal. That both sides are as bad as each other. Both sides are NOT equal. People complaining (or screaming as you put it) about homophobia are telling the truth and standing up for civil rights. The people that are homophobic don't have a point. They are just being bigots. So you can't equate the 2 sides. They are NOT equal.

Not sure I understand your point here, are you saying anyone who is against this practice is a bigot and a homophobe, why are you waving that word around like a banner?

lostalex 08-03-2013 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5874944)
Not sure I understand your point here, are you saying anyone who is against this practice is a bigot and a homophobe, why are you waving that word around like a banner?

I don't see how it's not homophobic to be against letting young boys or girls go against gender stereotypes. It's clearly inherently homophobic.

Saying that "boys should be boys and girls should be girls" is inherently homophobic imo. because society's view of what a "boy" is and what a "girl" is, is inherently homophobic and sexist.

Jake. 08-03-2013 02:26 AM

Let kids chose who they want to be when they get to the right age. Don't go ****ing up their development because you feel the need to be different, it doesn't mean that every boy has to play football etc

lostalex 08-03-2013 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 5875030)
Let kids chose who they want to be when they get to the right age. Don't go ****ing up their development because you feel the need to be different, it doesn't mean that every boy has to play football etc

Eggggsactly. expose them to everything, and let them choose their own interests.

Niamh. 08-03-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5874611)
But that's just stupid.

Doesn't make any sense and confuses children right from the start.

You are either a boy or a girl. Whether you grow up to wish you were the other gender is another matter entirely.

This. The parents are ****ing idiots, I feel bad for the child


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