Don't imagine for a minute that female judges make fewer dubious decisions than male judges. In my humble opinion they're mostly out of touch with reality.

I think they're still refereed to as judges, and not "lady judges".

The fault does lie entirely at the feet of the man, in my opinion. The girl did not commit an illegal act, he did. Unfortunately, this only highlights what a lot of women who bring these kind of cases to court are faced with. I attended court with a family member who had been raped (date rape) and she was faced with similar comments from the prosecutor and witnesses about her sexual history and her life was effectively ruined by bringing this case to court (in her mind) and now has no faith in the justice system and would never advise anyone to make a complaint as the mistakes made and slurs implied were devastating, not taking into account the state she was in on the night of the assault, the physical evidence, bruising, bleeding etc all the prosecution were interested in was that she was a single girl with a past...anyway, my point in this is that this happens regularly in cases such as these where the victim bears (wrongly) the blame for the assaults and in my opinion the justice system needs reviewing on this. This is only in the press as this victim is an underage girl but it is a pitfall that faces a lot of women when they are brave enough to face their abuser and speak out in a court.

Very good point

I completely agree that the man in question is 100% in the wrong, and like I've said numerous times before, in my opinion he should have been jailed.

Thing is though, some 13 year olds ARE predatory and provocative, but sadly, without being skilled in making good decisions like a grown woman might. They look like women, they dress like women... but they're children. If a woman wants to dress provocatively, she has the mental capacity to deal with unwanted attention on a much higher level than a child would in the same situation. The sexualisation of children is an issue in our society and one that needs sorting.

I think this is a ridiculously exaggerated response and pretty rude

It is my opinion marc...
This is not the subject to be throwing around your glib responses either.

Excuse me?

And how exactly would you describe your response to Livia then?

I'm not being drawn out on this, if you didn't like my tone that is your issue but I expressed how I felt and my response reflects that.

I don't feel I need to draw you out at all.

Good for you, so carry on expressing your opinion and don't question mine.

Sure
I am just saying a Lady taking his job would be better

..what I do find slightly ironic as well is that this ruling has been made and this leniency been inappropriately shown for such a crime when the government are discussing bans on the internet to help prevent paedophilia and protect young people, I know this isn't an internet case but I find that very ironic and not sending the signal of what apparently is hoped to be achieved, which is to protect the child...

Are we now accusing the judge of being sexist? I'm fairly confident that his decision had nothing to do with his gender, nor does his gender have anything to do with his abilities.

HA! You questioned Livia's though, why can you question hers and I'm not allowed to question yours? :laugh: Ridiculous

No he is a Dirty Old Judge,
his gender does come into this.

Incredible.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...69_306x456.jpg
Judge Nigel Peters has been criticised after
describing a sex abuse victim as 'predatory'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2bHumM1KE

Marc. what are you trying to achieve here?
You suggested my response was exaggerated; It wasn't.
How would I describe my response? Apt.
Are we done now?

If that's what you want to believe.

It's what I know to be the truth marc.

I wouldn't wish to comment on this case because we, the public, only ever get told a fraction of the story.

I would merely observe that in a country like, for example, Spain this case would never even have come to court. Why? Because the age of consent is 13 in Spain. Funny old world isn't it?

Well what do you know! Good on Spain for finally changing it!

Yeah, jeez about time too