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ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 07:34 PM

Tell me smeggypants, what is the depth of the situation? Hmmm im curious

Smeggypants 12-08-2006 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by Deep2
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Originally posted by lambruscokid
Grace handled the crowd so well when the three of them left the house. Even though the jerks were booing her on her birthday, she just laughed them off.
Forced laughter, seething inside. See it a mile off.


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I feel like Grace haters are just going along with the crowd, because it's easy to do.
Well I can make my own mind up about people. I am no sheep.

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Everyone bitches, and there were loads of HMs worse than her.
We Grace Haters have given the reasons Grace is Vile so many times on this forum, and the reasons go way beyond the bitching. Yet Grace Lovers time and trime again keep saying "Everyone bitches!"

For the last time... it was a LOT MORE THAN THE BITCHING! you're just refusing to see it.


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Grace is ace.
NO she isn't! She is REPULSIVE!!
A well written post. Just remember she is gone now. The vast majority of people realsied how awful she was, but everyone is bound to have a smattering of fans.

Dont say realised. Because theyre entitled to there opinions as much as we are. Your making it sound as if your opinion is the only one that counts.
[after spendign ages sorting the quotes out..]

Sure you're entitled to your opinion. but I do think if you poaid more attention to the human psycology of Grace you'd understand why she is hated so much

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 07:37 PM

Well Smeggypants give me some examples of your in depth analogy of Grace. Yes i know she bitched. If you were going to say shes an evil person

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 07:38 PM

Ok i will let you think them over smeggy

xGemmax 12-08-2006 07:40 PM

HAHA:bigsmile::joker:

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:16 PM

Aww poor smeggy cant think of them :P Haha

RAS 12-08-2006 08:18 PM

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Aww poor smeggy cant think of them :P Haha
Yes its true, Grace is such a nice person that no one can think of anything bad to say about her. What a lovely girl she is!

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:20 PM

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Aww poor smeggy cant think of them :P Haha
Yes its true, Grace is such a nice person that no one can think of anything bad to say about her. What a lovely girl she is!
Yeah she is evil isnt she. Oh i cant believe she bitched. Its not normal, id never heard of bitching in the bigbrother house. Its so out of order. Susie didnt even have that water coming. Oh noooooo. People got over her ages ago. NOT.

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:20 PM

Oh and im not really bothered what the anti grace people think. and neither is grace, she actually laughed it off.

Smeggypants 12-08-2006 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by ferg_luvs_bb7
Aww poor smeggy cant think of them :P Haha
Actually I'm writing it all out for you now. Just be patient.

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:23 PM

Oh ok smeggy, but im expecting lots of rants about how evil she is for bitching, and how cowardly she is. I dont care. I love her.

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:26 PM

Smeggy will say:

Grace is evil, cowardly and is a manipulative bitch. or whatever. :sleep:

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:29 PM

How long does it take to post: evil, cowardly..
I know just about what ya'll saay even if it aint exact..

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:30 PM

Oh dear. Come on.

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:31 PM

You really need to think what ya gonna say dont you!

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:31 PM

?

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:32 PM

Oh well Im falling alseep here im anticipating you so muchly

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:33 PM

:sleep: Excitment. Oh dear.

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:33 PM

Have you died smeggy?

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:34 PM

Hang on, have you? Are you ok there?

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:37 PM

I'll guess ill never know, oh i am dissapointed

amuseme 12-08-2006 08:37 PM

People who post why they hate Grace never really have a valid reason, because they seem to like housemates who do exactly the same as what they slate Grace for doing and more

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:37 PM

:wink::puzzled::eureka:

ferg_luvs_bb7 12-08-2006 08:38 PM

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People who post why they hate Grace never really have a valid reason, because they seem to like housemates who do exactly the same as what they slate Grace for doing and more
Yup. Totally agree with you there. :thumbs:

Smeggypants 12-08-2006 08:40 PM

OK, as much as it 's tedious having to go over this sh1t time and time again....

First off Grace cares about no one but herself. She uses people to boost her own selfish ego by either impressing them or declaring herself superior to them. She did this in the house by creating a group around herself ( The plastics ) of which she could then declare herself the leader by default. She would bind this group together both by assertiveness and creating common ememies for them to bitch about.

When anyone new entered the house such as Sam, Ash and Suzie she felt threatened, and rather than give them a chance, or even make friends Grace immediately judged them as 'bad' so Grace could further retain control over her little group by further simulating the bitch sessions. People of lesser assertiveness in the group, such as Imogen, would agree simply to retain acceptance in this group.

Grace of course didn't give a toss about the people she immediately judged and bitched about. Indeed she even lied about them (Sam )in order to maintain her 'leadership' of this group.

Grace of course also didn't care about the people ( plastics ) in the group. They were only there to serve a purpose. That purpose being to create a group for Grace to Lead.

Where Grace went wrong however was that while she could fool the other HMs with her scheming and lying, she forgot about the cameras on her at all times recording her eveyr move. Viewers could see all this and began to hate her.

When Grace heard the 'get Grace out' chants during that particular eviction night, did you see how shocked she was? This really hurt her ( running to the toilet crying ) becuase she would never admit or realis how vile is was being.

The when Suzie nominated her and thus ensured her eviction her selfish ego was really bruised and she was compelled to retaliate in a childish way.

This brings us to the first of Grace's cowardly side. Someone with REAL GUTS would have thrown the water and then stood there waiting for the reaction. But no, Grace waited until the very last minute so she could escapewithout having to face upto any possible consequences of the water throwing. Total cowardice and really quite pathetic for someone who puts up such an assertive front.

OK, lets fast forward to Graces 2nd entry to the house. When she was around her group again, she was acting the big assertive leader, but when she was told she was going back into the main house for 21 minutes she shat herself.

You cannot have missed how nervous she was when she went back into the main house for those 21 minutes. She did everything to avoid a confrontation with Aisleyne, but couldn't really refuse when Glyn invited her to the kitchen area. Yes I Know aisleyne was nervous too, but least Ash contronted her about it.

All Grace could come back with was some crap about suzies secrets and that she was a stripper. As if that was some excuse for Grace's bad behaviour. When Ash pursued it further Grace ( as she coudlnt' use words this time) ignoered her and cuddled Glyn putting him in between her and Ash. ( That's when Ash rightly called her ignorant! )

And when Grace got back into the HND she completely changed from a cowardly squirmer into the big assertive, always in control, "yeah I sorted Ash out" person again.

And yeah she does laugh off the criticism, but not in a way that she doesnt' care. Grace doesn't care abut people, but she damn well cares about what people think of her, as her very existence depends on her popularity to fuel her selfish ego.

This what I Like about Big Brother. The way it is set up completely exposes people's personalities.

In real life you can be an arsehole and get away with it by lying and scheming ( As grace obviously has ), but in BB you cannot.

The general public ( including myself ) don't hate Grace for no reason, and we certainly don't hate her just becuase she threw water and was a bitch. Remember Imogen has bitched, Aidleyne has bitched, Lea has bitched, but they're not hated by the public like Grace is.

There you go, FWIW, some psyco-analysis as to why Grace is an arsehole. Take it or leave it


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