Your whole point was the fact that Charlotte was being rude to Vicky by interrupting her... yet you failed to see that it was actually Vicky who first interrupted Charlotte. You say Charlotte should've asked her to let her finish... so why couldn't Vicky ask Charlotte nicely to let her finish instead of being so condescending?

It's not always what you say but the way you say it! Vicky had no intention of letting Charlotte give her point across and that's because she feels she is older, wiser and her points and feelings are more important! Bruce screamed at Charlotte when Charlotte confronted him about his attitude towards Lauren and them keeping him awake ... yet Vicky felt he had every right to because he was older and Charlotte should respect him and his feelings... what a warped sense of entitlement!

You also clearly failed to see that even Louie couldn't get his point across when Vicky was speaking and also Lauren for that matter.

Charlotte got upset and, I agree, acted very immaturely and like a typical spoilt brat of today's generation ... but, she admitted this in the diary room. So she is fully aware of her actions and has probably been allowed to get away with this type of attitude far too many times and let's face it she's paid to act like this on Geordie Shore. Does it mean she does not respect people who are older than her? No it doesn't! She has proved this with her relationship with Ron, Carol Louie and also Lauren.

Just because a person is 45 does not give them the right to only give their point of view across and not listen to others who are younger. It also does not give them automatic respect just because they are older... you earn respect and Vicky has not earned any respect imo. She is just a typical older person who feels the only way they can win an argument is to tell people they need to respect their elders!

She acted just as badly as Charlotte by calling her a fat slag from Newcastle and slagging her off in the garden, but let's all respect her because she's older eh!

She wanted in with the clique and now she's got it she's trying to become head honcho because she thinks as an older person she should automatically receive it.

Vicky has sealed her fate and will be first out on eviction night! But I doubt she will be missed that much.

Oh dear.
You just agreed with everything i said but still try to spin it to favour the one that had a tantrum.
carry on.

The housemates believe that she did but the point of the argument is that everyone should be treated the same. This thread is NOT pointless and if you think it is then don't bloody comment on it. I don't comment on any thread I feel is a waste of time. In my eyes Vicky was wrong. If people think Charlotte was wrong fair enough.

Charlotte is by no means and angel and the way she choses to live her life is highly questionable as are some of her antics in the house Charlotte may also have called Vicky names but Vicky was patronising and really I don't think she actually GOT what Charlotte was trying to say. It should be a level playing field with everyone treated the same. Vicky of course does not want to associate herself with the 'fat slag' or whatever else she called her. Her rant about Charlotte in the garden was stupid. Charlotte isn't a child but she is young. Vicky is a mature woman and should have conducted herself better in this argument. I do not condone Charlotte for much of what she does but she was trying to make a point and even when Vicky EVENTUALLY finished talking Vicky just brushed it off

:worship::worship::worship: I absolutely agree...

If everyone was ill they could all speak to someone, they all do get the same treatment.

In my opinion they were both correct and both wrong.

I know Charlottes point was that the concept off big brother is that everyone is treated equally and are kept from contact from outside the house, but where does that stop and where does that end!

Vicky made a point that everyone should be treated as and when it is needed in regards to outside contact.

For instance, should people be allowed to recieve hospital treatment and then let back into the house?...should tom have been allowed to go to his grandmothers funeral and then allowed back in the house?...should people be told when someone dies in their family when they are in the house like what happened to the bloke from an earlier bb who then decided to leave.

So as vicky was saying, yes it should be treated as and when an individual needs contact from the outside and that individuals needs should be rspected and seen to.

Chartlottes point was more to do with the whoile point of what big brother was all about.

I found charlotte acted very childishly and vicky very patronising, so both correct in a way and both wrong in others.

BRILLIANT POST :elephant:

Agreed, but i Charlotte started with the insults. She called Vicky thick. How rude!

...and I'd say you're above 45 and in the generation of "respect your elders" even though they don't deserve or earn it!

Oh dear.

Carry on.

Its not difficult....Lauren was probably feeling down because she was in need of reassurance... like all the others in there may have felt at certain stages in there. But Lauren gets what she wants because she is fragile and sick....she would have got mummys reassurance plus a reassurance that she is favourite to win....its all pathetic. I just hope she does not win.

This was the whole point, Lauren has been reassured that she is joint favourite, so that's alright, then.

This, why they ever put her in the house I shall never know.

Wrong again.
stick to discussing the housemates and not me its a sure sign you are losing by getting personal plus its also against the rules.

Right back atcha Bob!

mmmm ok yeah
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It was desperate and childish to say the least.

It it's the latter you could argue it's a subtle piece of fantastic gameplaying.

Why exactly should she pipe up ?

If they want to get in a strop and make themselves look stupid and potentially harm their own chances by jumping to wrong conclusions, it's up to them.

If Lauren sat on the fence and figured it could help her more to say nothing then bravo !

Vicky was polite, kept her cool quite well and was reasonable.
Charlotte didn't and wasn't.
If you're suggesting people need to fall over backwards to accomodate the faults of people like Charlotte then I disagree.
Especially when Charlotte is the one who thinks it should be a so called level playing field.
More like downhill for her is ok but when it's level and she's got her own issues going uphill then it isn't !

Out of interest why are you supporting Charlotte ?
I may be wrong but you don't strike me as someone that is easily entertained by farting and swearing.

I think she did - she just didn't see the validity of her argument.
And neither do I can you explain ?

It seemed to me when VIcky said "who's to say what's right or wrong" Charlotte had no answer so threw a mega-strop.

Seems to me Charlotte just doesn't like it when people won't bow down or agree with her.

If that's the case then how come Charlotte feels hard done to by not having the letter ?

It's ok for HER to have the letter.
But if others get it then it's somehow not fair ?

Poppycock !

She's had everything on a plate this series and loves the group power advantage as much as Louie and Carol do.

Level playing field ?
More like spollt brat's field all to herself !

If someone abused me unfairly I wouldn't be impressed either.
I don't blame Vicky for being hacked off and releasing her frustration in the garden at all.

Key word in that reply is 'probably'. As i said in my post, it all depends what stae Lauren was in, if she was in a desperate way then Vicky was right, if she was just experiencing a typical 'BB down' period then Charlotte was right.

We are not privy to just how bad Lauren can get at times, or even if she does have serious lows (i expect she does). I'm pretty sure BB has been informed. If she does experience significant lows that could cause her much distress then are people on here really all that bothered if a little rule bending takes place?

No one on here knows why she may have seen a doctor or her mum, it's all very much speculation and hypothetical scenarios so there is no real need for some people to be getting up in arms about it.

I can't stand Charlotte but Vicky(pissed) was so condescending, not listening to anyone, talking over them all and then behaved just as badly as Charlotte herself. Two wrongs will never make a right.I didn't mind Vicky until that live feed.

Lauren should NOT be in that house.... she is not stable...

she is stable, she has been great in there. Charlotte isn't stable though and should have been thrown out for her vile behaviour and abusive language