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no not all people are equally valuable. i tried selling my then gf in morocco once and was only offered 2 camels and a goat for her. the last one before i got 6 camels and a emu
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I consider all Human beings have worth and in different ways bring something to the World and others lives.
Of course there are people who do and can achieve greater status and success than others but as to being more valuabe, in some ways certainly yes, in possibly other ways no. I lost a friend earlier this year who was mentally impaired and physically paralysed after a serious car accident, in which he lost both his parents too. His humour, his determination to try to learn more and do as much as he can was something ,as I watched all his efforts,that was far more valuable than a lot I see in people who some in society and even authority would call the 'more important' people. I put a value on all people, no matter their status or even great lack of it. How they are and what they do and try to do as to reaching out to others is far more important and valuable to me as to other people. |
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If you read the whole of my post, I said I place value on all human beings for the way they are and what they do as to reaching out to others, clearly since you raise the name Hitler,it should be obvious to all that he is someone I would clearly not place any value on for his actions towards other human beings. |
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You're welcome Joey, I find the example given unacceptable.
I could understand if it had been between a doctor and a criminal, but it isn't and to me that's wrong. |
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I am very weary of those who use charity to try and show off an image take beckham he pays miniscule percent of taxes on his 100s of millions, yet when he donated part fo his wages from his paris football wages he was hailed a saint. truth is it was a tax write off |
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there's always going to be better people than others, no matter what you do.
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May I just say, I don't think Redway meant offence at all in his opening post to anyone in particular.
I think he was just saying a general comment as to how others may judge or measure value on individuals. I know of people who see the severely diasbled as having no worth, this Govt for instance for starters. I really believe Redway was not stating a view that was his as to measuring value but just asking a question, sometimes it is an extreme example that provokes thought and gets the opinions flowing. Redway is a really good guy and I am sure he meant no offence to anyone in the opening post. I made my comment in which I higlighted a severely disabled friend of mine as an example of where I saw greater worth because of the disabilities. However I took no offence at the opening post question nor was I offended in anyway by it either. I think the question brought about some good, strong and well thought out comments and that I firmly believe was the only intention from Redway and his opening post on the thread to gather others thoughts overall.. |
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..I don’t agree that with any other example it would have made the thread any dfferent..would an ‘older’ person be less valuable than a younger person..etc etc, the list is endless and nothing intentional was meant by the example used by the OP, just something we do when we make ‘hypothetical human interest’ threads..use examples etc...I guess the frustration of the OP and understandably so is the side tracking of a use of that example used, rather than his genuine interest in views on the topic, which I imagine is useful to his subject studies....
..anyway, not wanting to side track anymore and staying with the topic and as I think I posted earlier...my first instinct would be to say that we are all equally as ‘valuable’..but of course we are not..some not only have very little value to this planet but actually remove value from it in the case of murderers etc...and even people who are extremely valuable in just general things they do to care/have empathy for people in their lives...I guess we would call them the ‘average person’...in a culling of the population situation or an extreme situation when it might have to be decided..they could find their value very much diminished...because that is when ‘practical/logical’ would have to overrule ‘civilised’....and all empathy/compassion..’human’ feelings would have to be put aside...pr made secondary...actually, slightly off topic again, I always find that interesting in apocalyptic or plane crash survival movies...how the dynamics/priorities of everything changes and people within the group..(especially as I'm a recent fan to The Walking Dead series..)...interesting topic, Redway... |
Yes, I agree Ammi.
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...hmmm, but one of those children could be a future mass murderer...interesting... |
I think the idea was borne from the thread created on the news item that a 25yr old student was killed on his last delivery of pizza.
There was a feeling that some murders are more tragic than others, and that's right to a certain extent. I feel that is where the concept of some people being percieved as more valuable came from. I might be wrong, but it felt like it at the time. It made me think whether our priorities are changing and if viewing people in terms of duty was civilised, is it a real attitudinal shift? |
Well, again going back to what Matt said I think that it's all really subjective, like if an elderly woman is murdered and a young mother with 3 kids is murdered, which is worse? I mean obviously they're both tragic and very wrong but the younger mother is probably more valuable in the sense that she'll leave three young children motherless. It's not a nice thing to talk about like that though
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