Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6484258)

It does in one way but yet when a family member dies I'm sad but I find it hard to grieve. That's just me being f'kd up though probably.

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 6484259)

Animals also tend to establish an equilibrium with their environment and give something back to it. We don't. We just ravage and plunder an area of it's resources then pack up and move on. We're a virus with culture as our operating system at that base biosphere level.

If you're talking about the one thing that separates us from animals when it comes to nature it's obviously industry.

I love spiders. I used to be afraid of them but I got more and more exposed to them and now I find them really, really cool. They're one of evolutions greatest success stories. I was reading 1Q84 by Haruki Murakami the other other and he was comparing an assassin character in the book to a spider.

A spider is programmed biologically to just stay still for ages in it's web and kill whatever gets trapped in it's vicinity. They don't chose to kill. They don't have a sense of time passing so they don't gauge patience to kill. They just ... sit and wait and kill.

Thought it was kinda neat.

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 6484259)

Animals also tend to establish an equilibrium with their environment and give something back to it. We don't. We just ravage and plunder an area of it's resources then pack up and move on. We're a virus with culture as our operating system at that base biosphere level.

If you're talking about the one thing that separates us from animals when it comes to nature it's obviously industry.

I love spiders. I used to be afraid of them but I got more and more exposed to them and now I find them really, really cool. They're one of evolutions greatest success stories. I was reading 1Q84 by Haruki Murakami the other other and he was comparing an assassin character in the book to a spider.

A spider is programmed biologically to just stay still for ages in it's web and kill whatever gets trapped in it's vicinity. They don't chose to kill. They don't have a sense of time passing so they don't gauge patience to kill. They just ... sit and wait and kill.

Thought it was kinda neat.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6484219)

And now we torture, trap, shoot, gas, poison... we stuff tubes into geese and force-feed them so that rich people can eat their livers, we cut the fins off sharks for soup and throw them back into the sea still alive, we club, poison and gas animals and skin them, sometimes still alive, so some rich tart can wear a fur coat, we chase stags on horseback until they're so exhausted they collapse and we watch while they live on for minutes while dogs tear them apart. It's a little more serious than tossing a mouse around for an hour.

I've not even started on the napalm and mustard gas yet... and the gassing of six million people because another group of people didn't like them.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6484293)

And we 'dress up' to do it,and celebrate.

Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6484294)

Ok I'm gonna level with you here, I read that in an extremely dirty, pervy way.


I'm talking michael21 level dirty. :dance:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 6484232)

I killed a spider the day before yesterday, i won't lie.........it felt good :laugh:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6484369)

oh,trust you to lower the tone SM:joker::joker:

Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6484503)

what is with these threads
are you a councillor

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6484401)

I hope it was in self defence.............!!!!!:nono: