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Ninastar 15-12-2013 10:10 AM

can't wait!!!! im going to have sex with a prostitute

Stu 15-12-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MarysBoyChild (Post 6545936)
you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

Likewise you can copy and paste school journal arguments all you like but it's not exactly a game changer. The benefits of legalization far outweigh the comparatively thin side effects that a very small percentage of users may or may not face.

Lee. 15-12-2013 01:52 PM

I really don't know how I feel about legalisation... I know I have very negative feelings towards cannabis, but that's just a personal thing. I do think there are a few advantages to it being legalised but I really don't know. :shrug:

Redway 15-12-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 6545665)
I miss smoking weed :(

Get back to smoking it again then LOL. :tongue:

swinearefine 15-12-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MarysBoyChild (Post 6545936)
you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

lmao no it's not. You can be ignorant to the facts all you want, but it's you who is missing out. What makes me really ill is the constant dissemination of prohibition dreck such as this.

EDIT: bee tee dubz thanks for such a well-thought out and thorough answer!

waterhog 15-12-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemo123 (Post 6542149)
It's going to be legalised soon. The weight and tone of news reports, including the one I've just seen on Newsnight, convince me it is so. And Great!
We can buy it and be informed about what we're buying.



and most important - take tax from it and concentrate on the far more dangerous drugs out there.


i hope the legalization in my life time. but i have my reservations.

Ninastar 15-12-2013 06:39 PM

lmao, now I'm ignorant for believing various science reports over a few forum members? LOL only on tibb

swinearefine 15-12-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MarysBoyChild (Post 6547331)
lmao, now I'm ignorant for believing various science reports over a few forum members? LOL only on tibb

I believe the term is "propaganda" not "science." And no, not only on TiBB, I think you'll find some intelligence in other places as well.

Lee. 15-12-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MarysBoyChild (Post 6547331)
lmao, now I'm ignorant for believing various science reports over a few forum members? LOL only on tibb

This pisses me off too Caitlin. Putting the science reports to one side, I've seen the negative effects of serious cannabis use. ..

smeagol 15-12-2013 07:01 PM

they will never ever legalize it. you cant even drink smoke or fart these days. you think anybody is going to legalize that . no chance

fingers 15-12-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6547467)
they will never ever legalize it. you cant even drink smoke or fart these days. you think anybody is going to legalize that . no chance

smeagol not speak with forked tongue!:cat:

Ninastar 15-12-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Virgin Mary (Post 6547445)
This pisses me off too Caitlin. Putting the science reports to one side, I've seen the negative effects of serious cannabis use. ..

So have i.. I've known a number of people to say that is messed with their minds.

smeagol 15-12-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyFingeringTim (Post 6547499)
smeagol not speak with forked tongue!:cat:

how, smeg no speak forked tongue
we smoke peace pipe now talk of buffalo and little big bum who ride with wind in hair and dances with chickens and wolves

GypsyGoth 15-12-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MarysBoyChild (Post 6545936)
you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

:worship:


It's great for you swinearefine that smoking weed has such a great impact on your life, however that's not everyone's experience from it, and it is a dangerous drug.

Z 15-12-2013 11:17 PM

The only negative side effect of smoking weed is how much you then have to talk about how you smoke weed

(totally stole this off Smithy)

swinearefine 16-12-2013 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 6548954)
:worship:


It's great for you swinearefine that smoking weed has such a great impact on your life, however that's not everyone's experience from it, and it is a dangerous drug.

Did I not say that it's not for everyone? And omfg at it being a dangerous drug, are we living in the same world? Perhaps I have some more life experiences, because I know plenty about dangerous drugs and weed is not one of them. Genuinely cannot believe so many people have such antiquated views on this.

GypsyGoth 16-12-2013 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by swinearefine (Post 6549419)
Did I not say that it's not for everyone? And omfg at it being a dangerous drug, are we living in the same world? Perhaps I have some more life experiences, because I know plenty about dangerous drugs and weed is not one of them. Genuinely cannot believe so many people have such antiquated views on this.



Antiquated? Well how about we legalise everything like it was in the stone age, that would really be progress.

And fair enough if you don't think a substance that can cause psychotic episodes dangerous, I think that's naive on your behalf, or you are only trying to see only the good about your drug of choice. Just because there are more dangerous drugs out there, it doesn't make this one safe.

I've no problem with substances that can do us harm being put in a box marked illegal, that way the people who don't want to get high can avoid them and get on with living in society instead of escaping from it.

Also how great would the world be if marijuana was legal everywhere and people smoked it all the time? I'm not sure doctors, dentists or police would be that efficient. The likes of the midwives, fire fighters or teachers wouldn't been too good at their jobs either. So this dope smoking utopia is fine for the dope smokers, but what about the rest of society?

Sure it's a handy way to get some much needed tax revenue, but it's going to create more problems in the future.

swinearefine 16-12-2013 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 6549449)
Antiquated? Well how about we legalise everything like it was in the stone age, that would really be progress.

And fair enough if you don't think a substance that can cause psychotic episodes dangerous, I think that's naive on your behalf, or you are only trying to see only the good about your drug of choice. Just because there are more dangerous drugs out there, it doesn't make this one safe.

I've no problem with substances that can do us harm being put in a box marked illegal, that way the people who don't want to get high can avoid them and get on with living in society instead of escaping from it.

Also how great would the world be if marijuana was legal everywhere and people smoked it all the time? I'm not sure doctors, dentists or police would be that efficient. The likes of the midwives, fire fighters or teachers wouldn't been too good at their jobs either. So this dope smoking utopia is fine for the dope smokers, but what about the rest of society?

Sure it's a handy way to get some much needed tax revenue, but it's going to create more problems in the future.

Since when did you and my grandmother get to talking about the devil's lettuce? There is so much wrong with this post, I don't know where to begin - must be because I'm too damn high to function :rolleyes:

First off, I totally agree with legalizing everything, and actually giving people a proper education about drugs, their dangers, their benefits, and allowing them to make informed decisions and purchase their products in stores which generate tax revenue and help to reduce the violence and deaths caused by the ludicrous war on drugs.

I don't know where you're getting your information about marijuana causing psychotic episodes, but as I linked to earlier, it has been recently debunked that marijuana causes schizophrenia. Sure, it can cause anxiety in some, but for the overwhelming majority it calms them down and improves their mood. For the few who find the drug to cause them to go into psychotic episodes - of whom I have met none and heard of none, and trust me when I say that I have met more smokers ranging from first time casual 14-year-olds to lifetime stoners - don't use it then? Like I said, it's vital for people to be properly informed about the chemistry and effects of drugs in schools instead of being filled with a load of bull**** propaganda. Actually by propagating this myth of weed as a dangerous substance it only leads people, especially kids hearing it in school, to ridicule all drug education and not realize that some of it is quite valid such as when it comes to the dangers of hard drugs.

And um, people do smoke it all the time. Yes, your doctor, teacher, dentist, etc quite possibly does smoke the ganja! And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, as long as they are sober when they are performing tasks that require them to be such.

The world wouldn't be a dope utopia if everyone smoked because... most of the world does smoke? And it's absolutely absurd to say that it would cause problems because legalization (both of weed and hard drugs) would actually take power away from drug cartels, provide safety standards for both weed and hard drugs, and ultimately protect users, curb addiction, lower the incarceration rate, and provide a boon to the economy.

I would continue but it seems minds are just too closed to realize what is so obvious, but the bottom line is that by spreading misinformation about marijuana you are helping to destroy society and that is very sickening to me.

GypsyGoth 16-12-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by swinearefine (Post 6549452)
Since when did you and my grandmother get to talking about the devil's lettuce? There is so much wrong with this post, I don't know where to begin - must be because I'm too damn high to function :rolleyes:

First off, I totally agree with legalizing everything, and actually giving people a proper education about drugs, their dangers, their benefits, and allowing them to make informed decisions and purchase their products in stores which generate tax revenue and help to reduce the violence and deaths caused by the ludicrous war on drugs.

I don't know where you're getting your information about marijuana causing psychotic episodes, but as I linked to earlier, it has been recently debunked that marijuana causes schizophrenia. Sure, it can cause anxiety in some, but for the overwhelming majority it calms them down and improves their mood. For the few who find the drug to cause them to go into psychotic episodes - of whom I have met none and heard of none, and trust me when I say that I have met more smokers ranging from first time casual 14-year-olds to lifetime stoners - don't use it then? Like I said, it's vital for people to be properly informed about the chemistry and effects of drugs in schools instead of being filled with a load of bull**** propaganda. Actually by propagating this myth of weed as a dangerous substance it only leads people, especially kids hearing it in school, to ridicule all drug education and not realize that some of it is quite valid such as when it comes to the dangers of hard drugs.

And um, people do smoke it all the time. Yes, your doctor, teacher, dentist, etc quite possibly does smoke the ganja! And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, as long as they are sober when they are performing tasks that require them to be such.

The world wouldn't be a dope utopia if everyone smoked because... most of the world does smoke? And it's absolutely absurd to say that it would cause problems because legalization (both of weed and hard drugs) would actually take power away from drug cartels, provide safety standards for both weed and hard drugs, and ultimately protect users, curb addiction, lower the incarceration rate, and provide a boon to the economy.

I would continue but it seems minds are just too closed to realize what is so obvious, but the bottom line is that by spreading misinformation about marijuana you are helping to destroy society and that is very sickening to me.


You mentioned your life experience earlier, meaning it should give your points of view extra value, well perhaps you should treat your grandmother's words the same way, it seems to me like she's pretty wise.

You also mentioned that I'm the one here who has a closed mind, well I beg to differ, I looked and the evidence plus my personal experience before forming my opinion on this subject. It seems to me that you're so gung ho about legalising this, you've ignored any evident that shows your drug in a bad light. I feel if you take off the weed tinted glasses and look at the subject again, you may come to a different conclusion, rather than just looking for evidence that supports your point of view, try look at it freshly from both sides.

Lastly the idea you have about most of the world is smoking marijuana, is wrong, I believe dope smokers, pot heads, stoners are a tiny minority.

Tregard 16-12-2013 09:50 PM

I've been meaning to try it recently, but I'm not nearly proactive enough to go out and procure some. Should the occasion arise I'll do so then :P

Ninastar 17-12-2013 11:45 PM

:worship: QUEEN GG

Jords 18-12-2013 12:02 AM

I think its a bad idea. I have no problem with its use but legalising it will cause more interest in the substance with many becoming dependent paranoid idiots.

Nemo123 18-12-2013 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Elf Ears (Post 6553256)
I think its a bad idea. I have no problem with its use but legalising it will cause more interest in the substance with many becoming dependent paranoid idiots.

I totally agree.
But the thing about drugs is, it all comes down to subjective opinion. We're all different. What works for you won't necessarily work for me, and vice verse, and we cannot legislate on the basis of our own personal experience. There's no one cure for all.

And, what you take or do with your own body is your own business.

Kizzy 18-12-2013 12:12 AM

Debunked?.... I would love to know who and how years of scientific study were 'recently debunked'?

Nemo123 18-12-2013 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Snow Angel (Post 6553269)
Debunked?.... I would love to know who and how years of scientific study were 'recently debunked'?

Explain, please.


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