Matthew is very close to Steven, it wasn't just Toya:blush::spin:

So you agree they were not acting out of fairness..... My point exactly.

Of course they were, Emma said so also. She nullified 3 people from the 'cool gang' to prevent Danielle/Chris being up with Jale. She gave her reasons also, she was closer to the other gang at the time, Toya is just a lovely person that looks to help everyone in need :spin:

Would It be acceptable if marlon was given a pass to the final by big brother to keep the cultural and racial mix in the house?

On paper Yes.. It could be seen as discrimination. But I think there does need to be some more equality in terms of more men being evicted to balance it out. So for the show I don't think it is discrimination because it makes things much more balanced.

In toyas voice..." You are not listening"... Lol.

If you believe that crap, why did she not save Danielle/Chris. When she saw that the cool kids still picked then up? Rather she chose to save one of their friends.

The face Emma says what she likes does not make it law..... Just tell me the rational behind saving Steven and try to tailor it with preventing Danielle/ Chris being up.

No because you were all up for evicting Toya, thats double standards. Also Marlon is vile & will be evicted this Friday :hehe:

Double standards? That's rich coming from you....lol



My point is, we don't care if all they blacks are evicted, or all whites or all men or all women..... You should earn your keep.

Bb giving trying to even the balance is tantamount to giving marlon the pass for the same reason.

If there is any hint of double standards, it's from people like you.

when Toya fans were mad at the unfair twist last week, you all just laughed and said BB can change the rules etc, so why is it any different this week?

I just see double standards from many people :hehe:

:) With all due respect, I prefer to think of the women as strong/confident/opinionated (I'm male btw so I don't think I can be accused of being biased).

I think the way the women are treated on the show/by the public IS discrimination though; I remember Jade Goody's fights with Shilpa Shetty-or was it sheppy? I can't remember-BB had a press conference about it and at one point they said "Big Brother reflects society", I think that's true in two ways, 1st the house is a microcosm of society,2nd I think society is reflected in the way h.ms are received by the public-whether they're booed or cheered going in or coming out of the house as well as how long they last in there and let's be honest, the women usually do badly-5 winners out of 14, not that great.

When Tamara went in the house, she was booed, while she was i the house she was hated, when she came out the house, she was booed and for about a week after, she got tons of abuse online-sarcasm/spite here, insults in the facebook Q and A she did (even after it'd ended an hour before) and then anytime her name was mentioned on the official C5 BB page. I read a lot of comments about not liking her because of hes "showmance" with Winston and at the end of week 1 she was out.Week 2 Winston is the favourite to win the show. Double Standard because he was just as much a part of the "showmance" as Tamara was but she had to take responsibility for his actions so that the public didn't need to hold him responsible himself (they let him off the hook).

On BBBOTS last night, Emma said people don't like strong women.No, they prefer weak ones....I wonder why-perhaps because they're "easier to handle" for men. I think women pick up on that and are embarrassed by women like Tamara because she's got a brain and a good job oh and shock!! horror!! isn't ugly-the biggest sin of all. Deep down I think they know what men want is an easy life which is exactly what one of the Psychologists on Bit on the Psych said a few weeks ago when she tried to explain why the women were arguing and the men were relatively quiet.

To answer the question in yes or no terms though I think no-it's not discrimination -unless- BB don't give the guys the same chance as the women in a week or two's time. They'll have to be quick about it though because soon there won't be any women left to do it to; they'll all have been voted out and we'll get one of the very unimpressive blokes walking away with £100,000 for not doing/saying/being very much instead of a female winner who had inner strength,brains and ability and may even have been a positive role model for young girls watching the show.

Regardless of the end result..I fail to see how people can't see this as sexism tbh. I want one of the guys out next anyway (preferably Ash, Marlon or Winston...but Mark would do too) so this twist is very likely to go in my favour, but to deny that the decision in itself if discrimination is just ridiculous :S

I would however change my mind if they are planning on doing the same with the blokes..but I really doubt they are. Plus to do the same with the blokes would mean the definite eviction of another woman anyway D:

People had no problem with one of the power housemates being automatically put up for no reason [Decision made after the power housemate had been decided]

That had nothing to do with discrimination though? It was unfair(IMO), but it wasn't discrimination

The threads not about if you like the twist or not...its asking a quite simple question and people seem to be basing their answers on which housemates they like rather than anything else..when the answer here should be obvious

But Toya fans were in uproar & were starting multiple threads at the unfairness of it. This is one thread just asking people's opinions, hardly the same reaction at all... :joker:

I have said no for the present but if they don't give the male housemates a collective power period too then it certainly will be a discriminatory act for me.

More or less the same as Joey said above.

Plus as it is all in a game and BB makes the rules up as they go along, the housemates are aware of this so, anything goes in the name of fun.

BB will probably give some kind of power to the boys next week - but likely not nomination power as that would put out another female.
The thing that bothers me with the girl power this week is that we will probably lose Chris, Christopher or Matthew if Helen and Kim have their way. :sad: Ash and Steven seem as safe as houses unfortunately.
A lot will depend on who Jale goes with.

MMI :clap1:

if every single first evictee was black and the first 3/4 evictees of numerous series were black u wouldn't say it's just down to them being unlikeable and BB would have done something about it but they haven't for so long with the sexism that's been going on therefore it's only fair what they're doing this week

It isn't sexism either, women that are voted out first are either extremely dull or total bitches & as most people that vote are actually female, it is them voting out the women, not men...

it's sexist men and self loathing jealous women 100%. no way is it anything other, you're in denial if you think it is

If it was very pretty, nice & popular females being voted out then I would agree, but it isn't. The women voted out first are usually boring or utter c **ts, that is the only reason why, no sexism here...

well your wrong since 3 women have been voted out in a row most of the Big brother series and it doesn't matter if they are pretty they are still women

Then I'd like to know what people found so profoundly offensive about Tamara who was VERY attractive, calm and had a brain also didn't seem to go round acting like Danielle who was saved at Tamara's expense.

:joker: Just when I thought the desperation couldn't get any worse on this forum.

I'm pretty sure you don't have to be self loathing to hate Toya.