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Verbal 09-07-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7030779)
:smug:



Oh verbal you watched the show same as me, if you didn't think it was bullying then, you're not going to change your mind because I waste my time going through it all again with you. Alot of people agreed with me, including BB who issued her a formal warning...............for bullying

I have said that you may well be right and invited you to show me where actual bullying took place. I'm more than prepared to change my mind. I can't do more than that.

She received a formal warning for 'aggressive and unacceptable behaviour' Interestingly it was for her behaviour towards Matthew. None of the people you mention were mentioned by Big Brother. Also the word bullying was not mentioned once.



What else you got?

Marsh. 09-07-2014 02:52 PM

Didn't she receive a separate warning for her treatment of Jale, like Pauline?

chuff me dizzy 09-07-2014 02:52 PM

A few of the hm8s have said shes had several warnings,not just one

Niamh. 09-07-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7030810)
I have said that you may well be right and invited you to show me where actual bullying took place. I'm more than prepared to change my mind. I can't do more than that.

She received a formal warning for 'aggressive and unacceptable behaviour' Interestingly it was for her behaviour towards Matthew. None of the people you mention were mentioned by Big Brother. Also the word bullying was not mentioned once.



What else you got?

There was a "pre warning" warning that she received for bullying behaviour, I'm pretty sure about that

Niamh. 09-07-2014 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7030821)
Didn't she receive a separate warning for her treatment of Jale, like Pauline?

Yeah, she did, it wasn't an official warning, it was a warning that she would receive an official warning if she didn't stop

Verbal 09-07-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7030824)
There was a "pre warning" warning that she received for bullying behaviour, I'm pretty sure about that

Where?

Verbal 09-07-2014 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7030830)
Yeah, she did, it wasn't an official warning, it was a warning that she would receive an official warning if she didn't stop

Where?

Niamh. 09-07-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7030841)
Where?

Oh God, I wouldn't even no where to start trying to find a video of that, I can't even search videos on their website :/ Marsh remembers what I'm talking about though and he's a neutral on this

Alf 09-07-2014 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7030609)
Where are you attending University again? Law you're studying aren't you? If you have worked for the Tories as well, you are not working class. Are you taking the piss?

I see why your championing Helen, you see a lot of yourself in her.

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 7030858)
I see why your championing Helen, you see a lot of yourself in her.

Absolutely

Marsh. 09-07-2014 03:02 PM

I can't find a video on it but I do know at least 2 of her warnings have been shown in the highlights. One after the whole "slug" incident when she was told off for making people feel ostracised and then one after the spin the bottle argument for getting into Matthew's face.

I suppose if you can track down the date of the highlights show with the "Were you listening?" stuff, you might find the warning in that episode.

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7030850)
Oh God, I wouldn't even no where to start trying to find a video of that, I can't even search videos on their website :/ Marsh remembers what I'm talking about though and he's a neutral on this

Well i'm quite proficient at it and that video of a warning is the only one I can find


Oh and i've just been reminded why it's not a good idea to debate with certain people on here.

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:07 PM

So I think we can quite safely assume that no video exists of this phantom warning, so it didn't happen.

Unless of course Ch 5 are up to their old tricks again and are fixing it

:rolleyes:

Niamh. 09-07-2014 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7030879)
Well i'm quite proficient at it and that video of a warning is the only one I can find


Oh and i've just been reminded why it's not a good idea to debate with certain people on here.

Well, it did happen, Marsh remembers exactly what I'm talking about, I'm sure other people could back me up aswell but I have better things to be doing than watching through old h/ls shows to find it just to prove a point that I already know is true :shrug:

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7030899)
Well, it did happen, Marsh remembers exactly what I'm talking about, I'm sure other people could back me up aswell but I have better things to be doing than watching through old h/ls shows to find it just to prove a point that I already know is true :shrug:

Well its funny how footage exists of every other moment ever shown on the show, apart from that.

Marsh. 09-07-2014 03:10 PM

That's because you're looking for isolated clips. They don't make stand alone clips of every single moment in the house.

Like I said, if you are so interested in finding this other warning then your best bet is the highlights shows. Channel 5 have uploaded all of them from launch night to Demand 5.

Jack_ 09-07-2014 03:13 PM

I'm a Helen fan and she was definitely reprimanded (not an official formal warning) about 'behaviour which could be deemed to be bullying' after the Jale incident early on in the series

However, that reprimand came after days and days of screaming and wailing online that they weren't doing anything about her behaviour and so they were backed into a corner and felt like they had to do something to shut people up. Helen hasn't bullied anyone, she has been a **** to people and been unnecessarily cutting and nasty in isolated incidents, but nobody has been bullied this series.

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7030914)
That's because you're looking for isolated clips. They don't make stand alone clips of every single moment in the house.

Like I said, if you are so interested in finding this other warning then your best bet is the highlights shows. Channel 5 have uploaded all of them from launch night to Demand 5.

I've searched 'Helen warning' and 'Helen formal warning' what other search terms would you recommend?

Niamh. 09-07-2014 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7030927)
I'm a Helen fan and she was definitely reprimanded (not an official formal warning) about 'behaviour which could be deemed to be bullying' after the Jale incident early on in the series

However, that reprimand came after days and days of screaming and wailing online that they weren't doing anything about her behaviour and so they were backed into a corner and felt like they had to do something to shut people up. Helen hasn't bullied anyone, she has been a **** to people and been unnecessarily cutting and nasty in isolated incidents, but nobody has been bullied this series.

Objection! That's speculation your Honour :fist:


(thanks for saying you remembered what I was talking about though)

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7030927)
I'm a Helen fan and she was definitely reprimanded (not an official formal warning) about 'behaviour which could be deemed to be bullying' after the Jale incident early on in the series

However, that reprimand came after days and days of screaming and wailing online that they weren't doing anything about her behaviour and so they were backed into a corner and felt like they had to do something to shut people up. Helen hasn't bullied anyone, she has been a **** to people and been unnecessarily cutting and nasty in isolated incidents, but nobody has been bullied this series.

Like I said, if footage exists and I see it where the word bullying is mentioned during a warning. Then I can do nothing more than concede. But until that time...

Niamh. 09-07-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7030928)
I've searched 'Helen warning' and 'Helen formal warning' what other search terms would you recommend?

You aren't going to find it like that if there wasn't an isolated clip of it though :shrug:

Verbal 09-07-2014 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7030939)
You aren't going to find it like that if there wasn't an isolated clip of it though :shrug:

That is why I asked what do I search for.

Niamh. 09-07-2014 03:19 PM

]

“Name calling, persistent ridiculing and behaviour that results in an individual becoming ostracized from the group are all types of behaviour that can be perceived as bullying,” asserted Big Brother.

Read more: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb15/news/061...#ixzz36z8GBlvz

Marsh. 09-07-2014 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7030928)
I've searched 'Helen warning' and 'Helen formal warning' what other search terms would you recommend?

Did you just ignore my post?

They are in the HIGHLIGHTS SHOWS, the full episodes. They don't make an individual video for each moment or incident.

And if rumours are to be believed they'd need to open a separate blog if they were to record every warning she's had.

Find the highlights show from around the time of the "slug" incident.

Jack_ 09-07-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7030937)
Like I said, if footage exists and I see it where the word bullying is mentioned during a warning. Then I can do nothing more than concede. But until that time...

The word is mentioned, but it is 'behaviour which could be deemed to be bullying' because as I said the only reason they pulled her up on it was because most people online were moaning they weren't doing anything and some were even complaining to Ofcom (as if that would do anything, it'd make it worse)

You'll need to go and search the episodes back on Demand 5. I can't remember if it happened in an episode I caught up on from when I was away over the weekend of 12th June - 15th June or whether it was on the Monday 16th/Tuesday 17th. I'm pretty sure it was one of those episodes that week though, I returned to see people on here complaining about bullying, I was worried to watch the episodes back to see it unfold and once I had I thought everything had been blown way out of proportion, I have a feeling they reprimanded her early in the week beginning Monday 16th

The only way you are going to find it is if you skim through the episodes on Demand 5. It definitely happened though


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