I love when people make sweeping statements like this without explaining why in any depth at all. Its especially annoying when people chuck in "trust me" so thank you for not doing that.

I like Pav. Hope he stays. He seems intelligent and articulate. Always has interesting opinions.

*Sigh* My fault then. Alright fine. He plays that social game, self confessed ladies man, chasing girls and get in the crowed and keeps some, some of his mystique, although there's a bit of leakage there. Honestly, I'm not attacking his whole character. :notimpressed:

BTW. I'm not going on some crusade to save Steven. He dropped himself right in it. I harbor no ill feelings towards Steven or Pav. Its just my perception.

Being an intelligent game player>>>Being a mess>>>>>Being Zoe.

Steven going nowhere, Pav is outvoted both girls like Steven