Originally Posted by Daffodil (Post 7110278)

She was right. Helen has not changed. Helen has simply gone into temporary hibernation after that final warning.

Originally Posted by Daffodil (Post 7110278)

She was right. Helen has not changed. Helen has simply gone into temporary hibernation after that final warning.

Originally Posted by Daffodil (Post 7110278)

She was right. Helen has not changed. Helen has simply gone into temporary hibernation after that final warning.

Originally Posted by mrflibble (Post 7110300)

I was just arguing with my mum about this. She only started watching religiously a couple of weeks ago so missed most of actual Helen and she likes Helen :( She thinks Helen, Ash and Winston are amazing and that Helen has grown and changed. But I believe it is just hibernation. I think perhaps she has learnt something about herself, but will snap back to her old self when she gets out.

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7110100)

her way of thinking or lack of is in fact profoundly dangerous. she puts people in a box prejudges everyone in the most basic slightly discriminatory way

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7110205)

Not by the looks of the photos of them, looks like they're childhood sweethearts

http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/h...10758881_a.jpg

Originally Posted by catherine2005 (Post 7110358)

Judy said that Helen hasn't changed because she can see the final and she is unrepentant about the way she has treated the other HMs. Basically if she had changed she would apologise or even acknowledge the nastiness that she has shown. When she was upset last week about her comment about Steven and Kim, she was asked in diary room if she was sorry for saying it. Her answer was in as she believes that what she says is always correct.

Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7110363)

I find it amusing that he looks like Chris' younger brother. :laugh:

Anyone know how old he is? He isn't 18 that's for sure.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7110370)

Helen has been able to see the final since the 2nd day of the series when she got the free pass,
It is weeks ago she got the final warning,loads has gone on since then.

Originally Posted by catherine2005 (Post 7110358)

Judy said that Helen hasn't changed because she can see the final and she is unrepentant about the way she has treated the other HMs. Basically if she had changed she would apologise or even acknowledge the nastiness that she has shown. When she was upset last week about her comment about Steven and Kim, she was asked in diary room if she was sorry for saying it. Her answer was in as she believes that what she says is always correct.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 7110132)

Joke or not, if you make accusations, make sure you don't do exactly the same first

Originally Posted by Bedouin (Post 7109677)

Judi James is not a psychotherapist; she is some kind of a 'body language expert' which is pretty far off of being able to have a truly deep and insightful understanding of the human condition.

This is evidenced not only by her qualification but also her lack of compassion and, by the sounds of it, her patently untrue statement that Helen will be unable to change. Anyone who understands self knowledge and therapy will get that such changes are difficult but not impossible. (to learn about self knowledge try Daniel Mackler on YouTube for some very insightful and instructive, potentially life-changing videos.)

I see what she is saying; some people are seen as simply being unable to change... But all it takes is the right approach, and for the person trying to change to truly understand that it will be difficult and to very much want to improve themselves. 2 + 1 ≠ 2



Maybe Helen is one of those http://snl.jt.org/caps/episode_sketc...-04-10-7-1.jpg'unchangeable' people but judging from what we've seen I don't believe so.

There is also the fact that she judges everyone's behaviour (from past episodes that I've seen her talk on) on the merit that they are not even humans but animals, or base tribal morons of some other reductionistic sort. She doesn't address the nuance and the more personal aspects of people's psyches. Maybe I am a bit off-point here as I have not seen her talk in a few weeks.

And I must add, that she has some pretty damn interesting insights, but then seems to undo them with a completely weird left-field comment which doesn't make any sense. Her conclusions tend to come from an assumption that people's intent is generally negative, and that people always have alterior motives, which has become too predictable to be based off of any kind of nuanced and balanced perspective.

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton (Post 7110397)

I think it's hard for anyone to be 100% accurate all of the time. She got things right about Chris, and Helen.

Chris is getting too fond of Ashleigh, and using cuddles too much.
Helen hasn't changed. Her journey is all about herself, and not looking at the harm that she has done to others.

She got things wrong too...
Chris is scared of Helen, and cried with her (the crying looked fake to me)
Mark had a tantrum (the tantrum looked fake to me)

But even though she gets things wrong, she helps you to work things out for yourself.