Exactly, the producers need blaming

They do, for a great deal this series too.

Well they were in there that's proof enough for me..:joker::joker:

I know you think she's an angel from heaven...sorry if I burst your bubble.

Very true Joey..

I don't think that's a fair comment at all if i'm honest especially when some can't even admit that Ashleigh should have been warned for a threat of violence, lots of Helens fans I have seen on here knows she can be terrible at times but they admit it.

WTF?Why is she still in there?What is the actual point of warnings?How many strikes does Helen get?20 strikes and your out or something.Ridiculous.Fair enough give Ashleigh a warning if she deserves it but Helen should be long gone with all of hers.

It'd be great if we could all have a discussion about something without it turning into 'fan wars' for once :laugh:

Tell me about it.

I've never said she was an angel stop telling porkies,I've never ever said that,she's a gobby sod,but I like her,and good for you that you can condemn her on the basis of a few comments made by people who didn't like her anyway(except Steven)well that's not for me,I like proof,if there is any.but it fits what you believe so hey ho

I think we need stronger proof of what level of warnings than embittered ex housemates.
I cannot recall any series where anyone got that many warnings.

She may have been talked to about things but 'not' with warnings.I still doubt it would get to 15 and certainly not the 20 you stated with respect.

I doubt anyone,no matter who they were,even in a CBB series would survive more than 5 warnings never mind 15 to 20.

It's not rocket science is it Joey,there is NO way BB would have allowed it to even get in double figures.

I would agree with you normally, but in this case, Ashleigh is not being treated equally with Helen by BB, hence the outrage - I don't think anyone is condoning Helen's behaviour

Ashleigh should have been warned too. Helen deserved the warning too. Although personally I think it's all blown out of proportion. If Helen went up to Ashleigh's face and said "I'm going to ****ing smash your face in" then the warning would be well justified. Her comment just seemed a heat of the moment thing that wouldn't actually happen in or out of the house. But meh, the warning needed to be done.

Ashleigh should have had one too though. Don't see how she can get away with similar language where Helen gets an aired warning.

But that's not Ashleigh's problem if BB aren't able to dish out consistant warnings

Something else as well helen knew what she said was wrong and was genuinly upset by it where as ashligh didnt

They have reneged on what they said a few weeks ago though.

If she was on her last warning she should be out of the house.

Apparently it is rocket science as BB haven't got a clue.

Helen's tears in the diary room - I find it hard to take them seriously. Be vile, get called out on it, cry. Bleh.

Ashleigh should have got a warning.
Helen should never have been told she was on a final warning as she obviously isn't.

Why kick someone out for a throwaway comment with just one week left

Well why bother with warning with no consequences?

I do agree that Ashleigh should have got a warning for her comment, but the only thing I can think of RE why she didn't get one is that BB must have evaluated whether she said it in pure malice or was just saying something she didn't mean on a bad day?

What Paul said ^

I think they only warn Helen so that she can turn on the tears and apologise.

Very true!Final warning means nothing.They would save more face by not bothering and bringing more attention to it,They obviously don't have any intention of punishing her.

It absolutely is Ashleigh's problem as she showed exactly the same level of aggression - just cause she appears to have gotten away with it, doesn't lessen what she did

What happened to Helen being on her last warning? Eject her!