No it's not relevant to bb but it is to her and what it says about her .

:joker: Have you never visited this forum before?

I'm just glad I don't know that women in reality.
She seems like the most hateful woman you could possibly meet.
Totally toxic & two faced.
To defend her is to defend what she stands for. Awful.

What do you mean ?

Not really. It was years ago. Should we also bring up what the other housemates did years ago? I'll bet none of them are angels.

Meaning it's pretty anti-Helen in general.

You're right no one is an angel ! Having said that , the way we carry ourself says a lot . I don't give a rats ass if she's a trouble person or had a bad life , haven't most of us had difficulties .
Trust me , my life hasn't been peachy , I'd probably guarantee it's worse then hers and I don't treat people like s&@t . I don't talk to people s&@t and I don't walk around with an attitude .

You know there's a saying , treat others how you want to be treated !

Yes, but all of this doesn't warrant bringing her past into the discussion, that's not a level playing field. We discuss how they act in the house, their past is irrelevant.

Oh lol... I've been looking through the posts , I know there isn't much love for her .

I was talking bout someone siding with me . I feel like I'm fighting ya'll :blush::blush:

Agree OP. She's horrific.

Yeah credit where its due - helen gets what she deserves ! well not quite - cos she'd have been kicked out on her butt cheeks week 2 if she got what she deserved . still she's had a fun summer ruling her little roosters ! Twat Twat and Twat

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The whole video might be on youtube so you could check it out - Helen first heard them talking as Chris was saying really positive things about her, that she was beautiful that he hopes the change is real because it would be amazing. They said "she would have been a nightmare for us at school" and that was it. Its true - at school she would be a nightmare for those two. A classic bully.

Helen really took it over board. I think she wanted her groupies attention.

I like Helen - But she twists everything and is SUPER paranoid. I think she was raised in care. That's no excuse but its worth knowing. She didn't have the education Chris has had or the family support Ashleigh has

I respected her for not taking the money tonight.

I have no idea who my winner is right now.
Tonight really changed everything for me personally.

But it's not that far in the past ! It is part of her at the end of the day and I think it's a valid point . That's one of my reasons for not trusting her .

Lol :cheer2::cheer2:

Thank you!

And those things you said about her are the same for me but I am nothing like how she is !

I don't care how far in the past it is. No one else's life prior to the show is dragged into it, it's not relevant no matter how much you spin it.

God knows there's enough material to discuss from the last 9 weeks without dragging Wayne bloody Rooney into it.

She is a vile human being and full of double standards. She heard the good points of Ashleigh and Chris's convo because we saw her listening to that part of the conversation...she is rotten to the core..a manipulative liar.

If they were whispering it would have been worse. Chris was drunk and Ashleigh wasn't...why would she hush a conversation if it was a valid and balanced one.

Well I didn't actually say his name purposely . Also , I was merely stating I wouldn't trust someone with that comportment . I wasn't going on about it , didn't even bring it up in my post or even intent to. I can only go by her actions , actions speak louder then words .
How anyone can say they'd trust someone they've only watched on tv a couple months is beyond me .

I have to agree with you again,this is becoming a habit.
You are saving me loads of typing and are clearly on great form tonight Marsh.

I agree that her past and what she does is irrelevant,she is a BB housemate and should be judged on that not what she has done or does outside.

If we really judged housemates on all we could know about them out of the house, it could probably be that we wouldn't like anyone.

Not that I am defending mark but don't people bring up the fact ( I mean in other postings ) he's been on other reality shows ? Theoretically, that's his past ?

I've seen people talking about Danielle doing her webcam thing , that was in the past ! Zoe and so on ....


Again!!!!!! I wasn't bringing her past into my thread , I brought up something she has done which I personally don't agree with and think shows her character .
I said it in response to someone saying they'd trust her over the other hm.

I'm sorry but I can't just go by what I see in the house , I can't help the fact of what I know about her , it's common knowledge . The fact that she hasn't done anything to help herself or her character proves to me she is that person.
What I mean by that , a Nasty , vile , despicable person.

The fact that she done what she did and then go to sell stories about it , what a great person she is !!! Really nice of her . Also 2 months of being in the house completely removes her past and anything it has to do with her .

She hasn't proven that she's not that person quite the opposite !

One more thing ... I would like to state this ,,, I am not saying you're a bad/nasty person for doing the profession she did , not at all! I mean going and selling stories about it, knowing (if you have any intelligence ) you are going to cause so much heart ache , I mean to the worse degree . She could have destroyed a family etc

I think that does say a lot about you .

She never said Helen had a million chances, her exact words were...

'She'd make our lives miserable at school, there were plenty of girls like her for me and I'd give them a second chance, a third chance, a tenth chance, a thousand chances and each time they'd make my life miserable'

That's nothing to do with her and Helen's relationship in the house, she was simply explaining to Chris her school life. Helen took with it and ran like a dog with a bone. Twisting the entire conversation between them to suit her goals, and to look like the victim, and it backfired with the public, hugely.

When 'confronted' Helen said that Ashleigh remarked that she'd given Helen a million and one chances to change and she hadn't, which is far from what Ashleigh said and never came out of her mouth.




I do feel sorry for Helen though, she is very soft and vulnerable, and for whatever reason (most likely her past) she can't handle the fact that she is, and has to put up a huge barrier of nastiness to protect herself from getting hurt. The ironic part is that her being like that is the exact reason as to why she gets hurt at the smallest things!

Why thank you my dear joey, you're not so bad yourself. :smug: