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It's reached the point where every little thing he does is picked up on and talked about to death and some of the others behaviour towards Gary is sometimes overlooked or given lip service in the midst of the James hate fest (and I can't blame anyone for hating him by the way, but really!.) I am more interested in the dynamics of the relationship between Gary and James - why James is fascinated with him yet so frustrated and angry with him etc. and why Gary still hangs out with him, asks him to do some things for him, and tolerates him. I tried to talk about this earlier on in the series but just got the 'James is horrible' stuff. So it's pointless really. I wish James was up for eviction this week and gone Wednesday because him and his twatness (is that a word?) :hehe: is dominating the forum and it's personally boring me no end. JMO. |
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Love him or hate him he's an amazing villain. :flutter:
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..I'm not sure James is fascinated with Gary, I don't see any interest there in him at all...he isn't interested in anything Gary has to say or any of his thoughts/beliefs etc...I think James has to feel 'important' ..has to prove himself somehow and it's interesting that the two people he has clashed with most in the house are the most 'vulnerable' with Gary and his impairment which causes him to become frustrating to the other housemates..?..so someone James can easily very much feel importance over by 'feeding' the dislike of the other housemates by constantly criticising Gary because he knows his actions and words will have 'popularity' with the others..therefore enforcing his feeling of 'Alpha' by treating Gary badly but yet also being the one to occasionally do things for him, which he constantly then points out so all are aware including Gary himself... ..and then there is also Audley, who is very much an 'Alpha' figure and by his size as well as his personality so James has 'preened his feathers' there and told him quite early on how he's not scared of him...:laugh:...(he will be really otherwise he would be dumb/have you seen the size of Audley..:amazed:.)..but he has to 'prove' outwardly to the others (and viewers..) that he isn't...it's so important for him to be the 'leader'/the Alpha...?...he has to tell us all and the housemates that he's intelligent/top of his game etc a real leader..?......interesting....also very insecure because he's the least comfortable with who he is than any of them I think...also interesting that (I think), he was fine with Kellie until more and more of Kellie's 'male' emerged in her aggression as well...maybe then started seeing her as a challenge to his 'Alpha'...?.... ..maybe his relationship with Gary also started the way it did because he originally saw Gary is an Alpha but then it wasn't so, so he became the 'old alpha' that Gary didn't have much respect for but had to throw scraps of kindness to now and again.... ..I'm making it up as I go along..:laugh:... |
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hes a boring nasty shallow twat who is making the show infinitely worse. he may be paid by bb to be a twat or he may just be a twat 24/7 either way its boring. get rid lets have some fun
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I wonder WHY Gary is disliked by so many. If he was behaving like he did on some other shows, then I could sort of understand it more, but he seems very amiable and tolerant, though I suspect he is winding them up to some extent. I don't think it's to do with his hearing either, because if they liked him they would make more of an effort surely...so we have to accept to some degree that Gary isn't easy to relate or annoys most of them, though that doesn't excuse in any way their behaviour towards him ...and of course he's the most intriguing HM in there by a long way which is great for us viewers. James: He has said several times that Gary fascinates him and I've seen him looking at him sometimes with complete bemusement as if he's trying to get inside his head to get the answer to the puzzle lol I think he has probably been mocked for being a dancer all his life and he isn't sure enough about his own masculinity to be able to brush it off. Now, I'm not thinking he's gay, because everyone has a right to self - identify and I don't think he is anyway. I just think whatever mocking he has had probably in his younger years makes him need to be seen as an alpha male and he has a naturally big ego which has currently taken a severe bruising with being dismissed from Strictly. He's not a very inward looking person that examines his own behaviour but instead sees other people as the problem and not himself. Maybe Gary wasn't what he is now in his 30's either....James certainly has a lot of evolving to do but I'm fairly sure he isn't as bad in real life as the lovely Ola has been married to him for 9 years and happily by all accounts, so being in the BB house is probably bringing out his insecurities and showing him at his very worst....I don't like what I'm seeing of him in there, but he's an interesting HM.... |
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...hmmm I think as well it’s interesting how Frenchy is with Gary because she’s probably one of the most difficult housemates for him to understand with her accent and how quickly she talks... and she often doesn’t look directly at him when she speaks/ has to repeat herself several times yet seems much less frustrated or irritated than the other housemates are...but I think maybe that’s because she does like him more or he bothers her in other ways much less ...for Stephanie, I think she’s a germaphobe, I read somewhere...so I think his hygiene and probably things like talking while he’s eating are things she hates....?..with Dee she seemed more tolerant at first but I think they’re just complete opposites in the things they like to converse about to the point that she finds him annoying...with Leslie, he felt Gary was rude and ‘butted’ in which he probably does because he has difficulties with different levels of conversations and voices going on and multiple conversations etc..so there are probably all in all lots of things that would annoy about living with him and in a confined environment like that when there are no feelings of friendship toward him in the first place, I think it all must build into intense dislike...part of it is just sniping and mocking him as well..I think these things can often just become an acceptable ‘pastime’ but are building up negative feelings toward that person all the time...so yeah, I think it probably has been hard to find a level of relating to him but it’s become a ‘pack’ thing in how intolerant they’ve been with him ..it’s seemed ok to them because it’s Gary and no one particularly bonds with Gary so few have questioned it...it’s how they’ve become used to thinking about him and treating him and it hasn’t been on a level of him being even ‘equal’ I don’t think, let alone making any allowances for his hearing impairment .. there have though been some occasions of patience and help with him as well, I agree...it’s just that when they’ve happened, they’re are almost thrown back at him immediately with ...’look what I did for you/no one else spent that time....and you didn’t say thank you..’..do they always say thank you..we all should, we know but sometimes it doesn’t always happen ..so more intolerances with their ‘help’....anyway yeah I just think for several reasons a dislike of one person can build up but it’s nothing they intentionally do and certainly don’t mean to offend ..:laugh:... ..with James..?..yeah I did think about him maybe having a ‘crisis’ in his career and possibly personally as well because of the loss of his place on Strictly ..he does seem to feel the need to ‘prove himself’...and it was interesting he said he didn’t care what anyone else/the public thought so long as Ola was proud of him and Ola felt he had behaved well and was ok with how he had been in the house...hmmm, I’m sure I’ve heard him talk about things/values he has and was brought up to believe in ...basic politeness/respect etc so maybe it’s Ola he’s trying to ‘prove’ something to and not the public or the housemates but that he feels a sense of not being a ‘provider/protector’ atm with his loss of work..(I don’t know if he has anything else/other opportunities going on with that..)...but maybe he feels generally in life a bit ‘demasculinised’ ..?...his ‘fascination’ with Gary, could be that he sees Gary as a very masculine guy but very at ease with it, very laid back..?...maybe that’s what he would like to feel but doesn’t atm.... ...I don’t know really..:laugh:..I tend to overthink and analyse things and my OH would just say..don’t think about it, he’s just an idiot...or some such similar word..:laugh:.. |
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