Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7357959)

I'm only young so maybe someone older can enlighten me but before video games what were people blaming for psychopathic murderers?

Horror movies?

Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7357959)

I'm only young so maybe someone older can enlighten me but before video games what were people blaming for psychopathic murderers?

Horror movies?

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7357971)

I have just bought gavs son gta5 for xmas. Best sleep with one eye open from now on because that game is certain to turn him into a cold blooded psycho killer :o

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7357923)

This is terrible. I have no idea what pushes someone to kill. Getting bullied would probably push someone over the edge. Maybe he was having problems at school?

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7357968)

I remember Chucky being blamed for something at one point :think:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7357999)

I love the Chucky Movies
so much work went into them

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 7357940)

Nah, I think it's dumb and wrong to blame games for this kind of thing, you're absolving the killer of blame and that's wrong. A game did not make this kid murder his teacher, this kid chose to do so of his own accord. At best games can be a trigger and like I said before anything can be a trigger so blaming triggers for someone's actions is completely pointless.

As for your point about the eight year old, the issue with that story is not that he played GTA but that he had easy access to a gun. Again the GTA angle is just a way for the media to sensationalise the story and you are lapping it up. All the killers you listed were just using games as an excuse, and like with that GTA story you are eating it up.

These killers would have killed with or without games being in the equation. There's always been murderers, it's not something new that came about with the release of the first GTA game. Blaming games and any form of media just gives these killers an excuse. 'Oh it's not his fault, it's GTA's/Catcher in the Rye's/Manhunt's/Dexter's/The Dark Knight's fault for influencing him'.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7357971)

I have just bought gavs son gta5 for xmas. Best sleep with one eye open from now on because that game is certain to turn him into a cold blooded psycho killer :o

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7358201)

My 3 year old has watched me play that game loads,He's not gone out and robbed any cars or beaten up any cops so far:joker:

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7358201)

My 3 year old has watched me play that game loads,He's not gone out and robbed any cars or beaten up any cops so far:joker:

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7358249)

Aged 3:shocked:

Very impressionable age, it's the age where you should be teaching, morals, which GTA has none of......good luck with him when he's a teen, i only hope you remember your post when the **** hits the fan.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7357968)

I remember Chucky being blamed for something at one point :think:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7358253)

It was the bulger case, and I am a believer in desensitisation I know many aren't.

Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7358252)

Got to love people who look down on people for their parenting skills.

You have just tainted your argument in here completely, you are now saying that the proverbial will hit the fan, because a child sees someone playing a game.. that goes against everything you have said in here so far and the fact that you're questioning someone's parenting.. well, that's just uncalled for.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7358253)

It was the bulger case, and I am a believer in desensitisation I know many aren't.

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7358258)

Nobody knows the future, it's morally wrong to let a child view images of violence like that in GTA, when as parents we should be preserving their childhood and the innocence that goes with childhood, i've had a bad childhood and would never look down on a parents skills, but you are setting yourself up for a nightmare by not putting in boundaries, children need good positive role models.

FYI i'm getting so tired of arguing with know it all teenagers, and their vast life experiences, bore off.

Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7358262)

That sentence right there, is looking down on other peoples parenting skills though..

And quite frankly, i don't care what you're tired of, this is a forum for the members to discuss stories and their opinions, if you don't like being disagreed with by 'know it all teenagers' then don't pt your opinions out there for them to be disagreed with.

You know nothing about me, or my childhood, so your attitude towards young people that, that sentence shows, is frankly insulting.

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7358258)

Nobody knows the future, it's morally wrong to let a child view images of violence like that in GTA, when as parents we should be preserving their childhood and the innocence that goes with childhood, i've had a bad childhood and would never look down on a parents skills, but you are setting yourself up for a nightmare by not putting in boundaries, children need good positive role models.

FYI i'm getting so tired of arguing with know it all teenagers, and their vast life experiences, bore off.

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7358264)

Yes it's for members to discuss, you are condescending and patronizing in your responses to my posts, i don't mind being disagreed with, but you repeatedly try to shoot me down, that's not a discussion, i'm just stating common sense.

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7358258)

FYI i'm getting so tired of arguing with know it all teenagers, and their vast life experiences, bore off.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 7358259)

Murder is as old as humanity, incidents like this have always happened and they'll continue to happen through no fault of games or the media.

Desensitisation only serves to create scapegoats for killers. You could ban every potential trigger for killers in the world and they'll still eventually kill. People like the boy in this story are ticking timebombs, instead of blaming irrelevant things like games we should focus on prevention and raising awareness of the signs of a potential killer as no psychopath ever just snaps, there are always signs people just need to be more aware of them and take them seriously.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7357968)

I remember Chucky being blamed for something at one point :think:

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7358264)

Yes it's for members to discuss, you are condescending and patronizing in your responses to my posts, i don't mind being disagreed with, but you repeatedly try to shoot me down, that's not a discussion, i'm just stating common sense.