Do I sound furious? Looks like I need to up the medication. Thanks for the help. :thumbs:

I'm not the one fighting some imaginary fight against the man haters.

Some of it is down to age, not all of it because there are older people who wouldn't dream of using that language.

It's just a shame that Ken isn't really with the times and doesn't know what is acceptable/unacceptable. The fact that Ken kept going on about providing 'controversy' and wanting to leave doesn't really help how his intentions may be construed.

It's not down to age at all, it's attitude. Ken knows, and then he was informed and warned on top. He was just being an arse.

I'm not saying it's all down to age. I think attitude and age can be related in this instance because of how society treated black people.

And like I said some older people felt (still so) that it was acceptable to use racist terms because they were never chastised for doing so.

The ear biting wasn't years ago.. it was a couple of days ago, and it wasn't dealt with at all.

Hard to discuss that considering we didn't see the incident never mind any action that was taken.

I dont know what happened so I cant comment.

Nobody saw what happened in the toilet but that seems to be open to discussion.

It depends on whether you believe Ken. You don't have to see it. I just happen to believe him.

Most people are in touch enough with reality to know that things that went on back in the day aren't acceptable now. I have my doubts that many are truly ignorant of the facts but I have come across plenty who are just plainly stubborn and want to challenge what is "acceptable or not" now.

No but both Jeremy and Chloe confirmed what happened in the house and the situation was dealt with and we saw and heard it unfold onscreen.

Not really comparable.

Not comparable as even BB didn't see what happened as it was in the toilet. All we have is the two sides.
What we heard unfold was 99% hysteria.

Is it still Racist if you recount a racist incident or story to another person.

Is it racist if you use the acceptable term "Negro"

Is it racist if you only if you use the other word that sounds like snigger.

Is it racist only if the word,sentence,phrase or story is uttered to hurt anothers feelings.

Where is the handbook on racism so Non Racists can check what the rules are and check what is acceptable.





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..I think he's very much in the times though, Braden... especially with the industry he works in so if he knows it's wrong but continues to do so then it's extremely ignorant and disrespectful...

Two sides.... which are exactly the same.

Chloe claimed Jeremy opened her gown, Jeremy admitted he opened her gown.
Jeremy apologised and Big Brother removed him.

Pretty clean cut situation.

This situation Ken has mentioned we haven't seen anything of it, let alone heard Cami's side.

we did hear Cami's side, she lost her balance and fell on kens ear causing significant pain to her teeth ... see the other thread :)

It's racist, he called a black person the N world, in what world is it not racist?

Not that clean, I don't believe he expected her to be nakey..
So that turned his action into an assault seemingly.
There is a thread somewhere where the ear biting convo is mentioned.

Keep digging Ken.

Looks like he wasn't doing it just for the show after all. :hehe:

A thread. I'm talking about the show. :laugh:

I never said he knew she was naked, that's not the point.
The point is he opened her gown and she got upset. He apologised, she forgives him but BB deemed his behaviour so inappropriate he was removed.

We haven't seen any events surrounding this ear bite unfold so can't really discuss it.

Its never stopped everyone before, no reason for it to be different this time :cheer2:

Well the bathroom stuff was aired, we heard what was going on and both Chloe and Jeremy gave pretty much the same version of events. As far as the ear biting goes, all we have is what Ken said, we don't have footage or any comment on it from Cami

As it was accepted in those days, chastisement didn't come into it at all.

It will die out eventually when generations grow old and pass away but there is racial abuse by football crowds in this day and age who have grown up with these more enlightened attitudes, so it still happens.

Would you like to elaborate or not bother at all. Thanks. :smug:

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