See i can't see how the two tie together. I don't have to care on a personal level how she raises her children to have an opinion on her parental ways?!

U a Hopkins fan?

Its to late for this.

Goodnight x

TBH when u reply with that much passion, you do care. One way or another and noone is saying you are caring but you care for whatever reason.

There is nothing more embarassing than someone who says "bye" to a conversation more than once and then continues the convosations... you just can't keep away can you ;)

But no i'm neutral, i don't like nor dislike Katie.

I should be embarrased? On an online forum.. LOL ..

What have i done. I am so embarrased now.

We luv u Jose < 3 don't be embarrassed

:joker:

LOVE U too xx i should stop this convo i dont knw why i even bother lol i have a heatseeker attached to my forhead that tracks things i disgaree with idk lol

but i know im not always right lol

Well i do, but that's just me

- Alicia can raise her own child however she wants to, so long as she feels she's raising the child well.
- Alicia, like any other person in the world, is entitled to air how she rears her child to whomever she feels.
- Alicia should NOT be made to feel cornered or like a bad mother because of this.
- The two girls, particularly Cami, who verbally attacked her for no reason, are a pair of sl*gs who have altered their faces and bodies specifically in a way to make themselves more appealing to men, and so should think twice before commenting on anyone elses lifestyle choices. Alicia has admittedly learned her lesson on surgery.
- Attacking someone for no reason, whether you're 'just being honest' or not, is bullying. No two ways about it. If you disagree with that, then you are no better than that evil, relentless, insensitive, inconsiderate witch, Katie Hopkins.

But its her fault



Its good to Cry

I try not to use the “bully card” all the time on the show because everybody has people that they don't like and have confrontations with them.

However I do feel that Alicia and Perez have tried to be nice to a lot of these Housemates, they've tried to enjoy themselves, yet they get nothing but abuse for it by the Witches, can they both be annoying? Yes especially Perez, but I do not feel that they deserve the abuse that they've been given in the house, especially for Perez having a laugh out in the Garden was the most out of order The Witches have been so far to a Team Fun member.

I mean, Perez has been entirely artificial and unfunny and tries to dominate all the attention and make everything about himself, so as far as I'm concerned him getting eviscerated daily by everyone else is the only thing he has going for him.

Shouldn't Perez be getting attacked when there's an actual reason to do it though Macie? I know you don't like him but would you stop him actually having fun in the house and get so pissed off about his stunt with the Mirror?

You call it fun and having a laugh, I call it desperately seeking attention and continuing to be annoying. Tomato, tomato. These women were looking for a reason to bite each other's heads off and yell and air all of their grievances out and just used Perez dancing in the garden as the platform for it. The argument wasn't even so much about Perez as it was about all the issues the girls have each other.

Being "honest" does not make you exempt from being nasty.

They did appear to be going self righteous about what Perez was doing though, and why care if his attention seeking? If they didn't react to it they would actually make him have less entertainment value therefore less of a talking therefore the production would be more willing to lose him, but if they keep reacting over silly things like on the most recent highlight show they will give him sympathy, especially when they're using him to then poke fun at Alicia.

And Perez might be manipulating Alicia, he seems to be clued on when it comes to the game, but are people on here honestly trying to tell me that Katie, Michelle, Chloe, and Cami was not trying to manipulate Alicia and Nadia onto their side? It's not all black and white here just because Perez has a dick does not make him automatically The Evil One.

Perez only does what he does cos he knows it's a tv show and that he is on TV he is probably bored and has openly said he is trying to be as entertaining as he can even, hilariously commentating to us, the public before coughing at night to cause mayhem, all in the name of fun I think.

I love Perez

..I actually agree with the OP, I don't think that Alicia is being bullied as such, I think that the other females are being very mean and bitchy to her because she isn't bitchy like them/doesn't want to be part of them and doesn't have a lot in common with them so she's also going to be a target for their bitchiness but I don't think that it's bullying...tbh I think that Katie chastising Keith for giving Perez time and attention or saying...ughhhh, now the others are talking to him or whatever she said could much more be perceived as bullying because she's trying to completely isolate him and influence others into doing the same...

Ammi...