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Angelika 24-01-2015 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7524680)
Give me just one example of bullying outside from KH. Opinions are not bullying. Where as Perez does. He has been arrested for stalking.

In the house, Perez has used the homophobic card three times and the race card once to try to belittle for his sick gameplan and the only real attempt at bullying has come from him against Alex.

KH's support has mainly come about because she is giving the sicko some of his own medicine back.


Peaches Geldof.........about her baby! A very low blow indeed the months later Peaches is no more. Her comments distress people.

GiRTh 24-01-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7524713)
Because opinion and being forthright is not slander or against the law. I watched the apprentice and saw no bullying just a stronger case against weaker opponents.

You've stumbled across her favourite target - weaker people.

abhorson 24-01-2015 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7524710)
Her whole persona is about shouting over people in discussions and it usually involves some petty juvenile insults too. SHe rarely makes a point that is identifiable. Her appearance consist of lots of shouting and lots of insults. Simply youtube katie Hopkins to find multiple examples. She's entitled to her opinions but saying ginger babies are harder to love is not very welcoming or giving anyone a chance.


I agree with some of that, but it is still not bullying as you stated. This Morning would not continuously have her on the show would they.

abhorson 24-01-2015 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelika (Post 7524714)
Peaches Geldof.........about her baby! A very low blow indeed the months later Peaches is no more. Her comments distress people.

Still not bullying though. Opinions can offend. Just as if i said the pope is a ****.

GiRTh 24-01-2015 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7524722)
I agree with some of that, but it is still not bullying as you stated. This Morning would not continuously have her on the show would they.

she's had vids that had over 6 million views on youtube after appearances on This morning. No matter how much Phillip and Holly argue with her she's one of their better guests for attention. In which lies the key .

abhorson 24-01-2015 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7524726)
she's had vids that had over 6 million views on youtube after appearances on This morning. No matter how much Phillip and Holly argue with her she's one of their better guests for attention. In which lies the key .

I dislike what she does for a living too.

GiRTh 24-01-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7524729)
I dislike what she does for a living too.

I find her not likeable at all so I'm stunned she's likely to win this series. She's had quite a few tasks set up for her like the opening night and the scouts task so good luck to her but shame on BB for intentionally giving so much airtime..

abhorson 24-01-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7524733)
I find her not likeable at all so I'm stunned she's likely to win this series. She's had quite a few tasks set up for her like the opening night and the scouts task so good luck to her but shame on BB for intentionally giving so much airtime..


Her support here and outside has imo mainly been due to her being the main protagonist in giving Perez exactly what he deserves. If Perez had gone yesterday. I believe some support would have waned. Him staying will only garner more.

GiRTh 24-01-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7524737)
Her support here and outside has imo mainly been to her being the main protagonist in giving Perez exactly what he deserves. If Perez had gone yesterday. I believe some support would have waned. Him staying will only garner more.

Kind of agree. ITs shame people dislike Perez so much they're voting for some one just as awful.

DemolitionRed 24-01-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7524713)
Because opinion and being forthright is not slander or against the law. I watched the apprentice and saw no bullying just a stronger case against weaker opponents.

I didn't see any bullying from Hopkins in the apprentice house. I also didn't see her as a strong candidate though and she knew she was up against some stronger people; that's why she left early. One thing that stands out about Hopkins is, she can't ever afford to lose and that's why she says very little about herself in the BB house. Information can be used as a weapon and as far as Hopkins is concerned, the less they know, the less ammunition they will have.

abhorson 24-01-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7524743)
Kind of agree. ITs shame people dislike Perez so much they're voting for some one just as awful.

:thumbs: Although imo, nowhere near as awful.

Kazanne 24-01-2015 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelika (Post 7524702)
She's a vile bully, she showed that in The Apprentice and is still one today.
Read this and gasp!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...ageous-4404987

I personally don't know how she has avoided court cases and more.

Sorry Angelika,although it comes across as nasty,I am sure all of those things can be explained in a way people would understand,KH just says it with more vitriole than most.

Razor 24-01-2015 02:39 PM

She is a vile person who thinks she is above everyone else.

abhorson 24-01-2015 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 7524744)
I didn't see any bullying from Hopkins in the apprentice house. I also didn't see her as a strong candidate though and she knew she was up against some stronger people; that's why she left early. One thing that stands out about Hopkins is, she can't ever afford to lose and that's why she says very little about herself in the BB house. Information can be used as a weapon and as far as Hopkins is concerned, the less they know, the less ammunition they will have.

Very fair. And i can imagine that she would not let a five year old win a game at all costs.

abhorson 24-01-2015 02:45 PM

Nice to have debate without anybody getting all het up.

GiRTh 24-01-2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7524748)
Sorry Angelika,although it comes across as nasty,I am sure all of those things can be explained in a way people would understand,KH just says it with more vitriole than most.

So all of those quotes have been taken out of context have they?

fitz2k2 24-01-2015 02:48 PM

enough of the word bullying yall cant think of a diff word my gosh

Kazanne 24-01-2015 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7524758)
So all of those quotes have been taken out of context have they?

If it was possible to sit with Katie and talk about them one to one,I am sure there would be some reasonable cause for what she says,I don't think you should take what she says literally,but we are all different in our take on things.

abhorson 24-01-2015 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fitz2k2 (Post 7524760)
enough of the word bullying yall cant think of a diff word my gosh

Are you trying to bully us into not using the word bully :joker:

GiRTh 24-01-2015 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7524763)
If it was possible to sit with Katie and talk about them one to one,I am sure there would be some reasonable cause for what she says,I don't think you should take what she says literally,but we are all different in our take on things.

IF Katie is saying something different when I'm one on one as opposed with cameras and millions of people watching then I stand by my conclusion of her as a fake. I thought she was supposed to be honest? Thats not very honest at all IMO.

ebandit 24-01-2015 02:57 PM

too much pressure
 
why do some think that katie h should be pressured into writing in magnolia

ink?............................who was it that said? i don't like what they say........

but i defend their right to say it

remember? we all have opportunity to answer back................the internet

is mightier than the assault rifle..........internet warriors unite!

Mark L

abhorson 24-01-2015 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardG (Post 7524774)
Based purely on their actions within the house, Perez has been an irritant (as highlighted by the arguments/general chaos he caused last week) but Katie's response to him has been wholly out of proportion and downright nasty, and I'd argue that she fits the definition of a 'bully' much more, along with her awful friend Cami. However, i've never gone down that route because I'm aware of the stuff Perez does outside the house and so know that in reality he's no better than her.

I do find it laughable the way some act as though one of the two are 'superior' to the other, as if there's a 'good guy' and a 'bad guy' in this storyline when it's blatantly obvious that that is not the case. I fail to see any deep routed innocence in either of them, no 'mask' you can remove to find a lovely person hidden behind. No genuinely nice person would say the things that they do so publicly.

:thumbs:

DemolitionRed 24-01-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardG (Post 7524774)

I do find it laughable the way some act as though one of the two are 'superior' to the other, as if there's a 'good guy' and a 'bad guy' in this storyline when it's blatantly obvious that that is not the case. I fail to see any deep routed innocence in either of them, no 'mask' you can remove to find a lovely person hidden behind. No genuinely nice person would say the things that they do so publicly and get so much pleasure from the mass offence they're causing.

Well said Richard but I have to say, I don't find what they say offensive, just ignorant. We can all cause a cluster f-ck online; we are all capable of trolling or being a keyboard warrior if we are that way minded but unless we have an entire back up team, we will only ever reach out to a very small audience. Hopkins and Parez really are no different to all the other people who regularly offend others on social networking sites, the only difference is, they both have a financial support system behind them.

ED for added words!

the truth 24-01-2015 03:36 PM

as long as shes hating an American we dont care, were so profoundly anti American , its pathetic

abhorson 24-01-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7524826)
as long as shes hating an American we dont care, were so profoundly anti American , its pathetic

Put a poll up.


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