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Josy 30-01-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7547691)
I haven't watched this video yet,but if she's rude are you surprised? If she wasn't we'de all be claiming she is fake,I like Keith a lot he is one of my winners,so if he's found his mouth,good for him for telling her,it doesn't make me dislike her or him any the less,if I took umbrage over everything derogotary said about me I'de have no friends.

My point to Elliebrew wasn't anything to do with her being rude Kazanne.

It was to point out that she isn't all accepting of others opinions like he suggested, when Keith gave his opinion she went off on a tangent and started attacking him personally.

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7547699)
The one where she invites him to share his opinion of her? Yer really looks like she cowers away from opinions of her Josy

No not that one Elliebrew.

So here we have people actually defending something when they haven't watched the clip LOL which funnily enough is EXACTLY what KH is guilty of in it :laugh3:

elliebrew 30-01-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7547725)
My point to Elliebrew wasn't anything to do with her being rude Kazanne.

It was to point out that she isn't all accepting of others opinions like he suggested, when Keith gave his opinion she went off on a tangent and started attacking him personally.



No not that one Elliebrew.

So here we have people actually defending something when they haven't watched the clip LOL which funnily enough is EXACTLY what KH is guilty of in it :laugh3:

You just absolutely hate Katie don't you?

You cannot see past her persona online. All the things she said about fat people, layabouts, gingers....all of them hysterical, a lot of them true.

Josy 30-01-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7547739)
You just absolutely hate Katie don't you?

You cannot see past her persona online. All the things she said about fat people, layabouts, gingers....all of them hysterical, a lot of them true.

Yes I do, I hated her before BB, I hate her in BB and I will hate her after it.

And for none of the comments you quoted although they are all vile and not the slightest bit funny nor true.

This thread however is about Katie, not me so don't attempt to derail it please.

elliebrew 30-01-2015 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7547744)
Yes I do, I hated her before BB, I hate her in BB and I will hate her after it.

And for none of the comments you quoted although they are all vile and not the slightest bit funny nor true.

This thread however is about Katie, not me so don't attempt to derail it please.

Well if not for any of those reasons I'm curious as to why

-Sue- 30-01-2015 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7547692)
And I'm getting hella fed up with people saying this.

Theres having your 'opinion'

And theres deliberatly leaving out FACTS to make your opinion the right one.

Im so so shocked at how many people have the rose tinted glasses on this year.

It feels like trolling

I didnt state any facts other than 'I'm really tired of hearing people say that' (in response to your 'are you watching the same show'

As for the rest of what you said I am NOT a troll I simply said (with tact) that we all watch the show and have different opinions.. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean Im right your wrong how could either of us be right or wrong when all i really said was I was tired of hearing 'are you watching and we all have opinions'!:shrug:

Kazanne 30-01-2015 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7547725)
My point to Elliebrew wasn't anything to do with her being rude Kazanne.

It was to point out that she isn't all accepting of others opinions like he suggested, when Keith gave his opinion she went off on a tangent and started attacking him personally.



No not that one Elliebrew.

So here we have people actually defending something when they haven't watched the clip LOL which funnily enough is EXACTLY what KH is guilty of in it :laugh3:

I stated I hadn't watched the video,I said IF she is being rude,i will watch it later though,so I wasn't defending her just holding an opinion,lol.

Josy 30-01-2015 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7547758)
Well if not for any of those reasons I'm curious as to why

Well you only posted a couple of quotes. she's said and done a lot more than that to be known as one of the most hated women in Britain.

Vanessa 30-01-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 7547760)
I didnt state any facts other than 'I'm really tired of hearing people say that' (in response to your 'are you watching the same show'

As for the rest of what you said I am NOT a troll I simply said (with tact) that we all watch the show and have different opinions.. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean Im right your wrong how could either of us be right or wrong when all i really said was I was tired of hearing 'are you watching and we all have opinions'!:shrug:

That's right. We all different opinions. That does not make anyone a troll. :clap2: In my opinion Katie does not accept that others may not agree with her. It's her way or the highway.

DemolitionRed 30-01-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7547739)
You just absolutely hate Katie don't you?

You cannot see past her persona online. All the things she said about fat people, layabouts, gingers....all of them hysterical, a lot of them true.

Unless of course Your fat, ginger or on benefits. I doubt they find her funny. The sort of people who do find that sort of thing hysterical are the same types that love the spectacle created by the Jeremy Kyle show. It makes them feel better about themselves.

DemolitionRed 30-01-2015 02:41 PM

Off topic but just wanted to say, kirklancaster, I love the way you write. You should do it for a living. :)

Lostie! 30-01-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7547739)
You just absolutely hate Katie don't you?

You cannot see past her persona online. All the things she said about fat people, layabouts, gingers....all of them hysterical, a lot of them true.

I'm proud to say I've never found a single thing that woman said to be "hysterical". But then, my idea of comedy isn't just insulting people for the sake of it. Actually, I think that's one of the weakest forms. :shrug:

I also find there's very little "truth" because she doesn't deal in ration, logic and facts. Her area of expertise is insults, generalising entire categories of people, inciting hatred and perpetuating nasty stereotypes.

Kazanne 30-01-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 7547907)
Unless of course Your fat, ginger or on benefits. I doubt they find her funny. The sort of people who do find that sort of thing hysterical are the same types that love the spectacle created by the Jeremy Kyle show. It makes them feel better about themselves.

You could be right,I LOVE the JK show,I'm sooooooooooooooo bad:laugh: another person who calls people out,funny how that hurts isn't it?

elliebrew 30-01-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 7548230)
I'm proud to say I've never found a single thing that woman said to be "hysterical". But then, my idea of comedy isn't just insulting people for the sake of it. Actually, I think that's one of the weakest forms. :shrug:

I also find there's very little "truth" because she doesn't deal in ration, logic and facts. Her area of expertise is insults, generalising entire categories of people, inciting hatred and perpetuating nasty stereotypes.

Round of applause your better than me because you don't find her funny.

seriously Hopkins deals rationally and bluntly.

A lot of people don't like blunt

Niamh. 30-01-2015 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7547744)
Yes I do, I hated her before BB, I hate her in BB and I will hate her after it.

And for none of the comments you quoted although they are all vile and not the slightest bit funny nor true.

This thread however is about Katie, not me so don't attempt to derail it please.

Amen to that

sampvt 30-01-2015 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7547765)
Well you only posted a couple of quotes. she's said and done a lot more than that to be known as one of the most hated women in Britain.

Right, enough you two. Ive heard enough and if you don't behave I will infract you both, :cheer2:

sampvt 30-01-2015 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7548296)
Amen to that

You as well, be warned, lol

Lostie! 30-01-2015 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7548294)
Round of applause your better than me because you don't find her funny.

seriously Hopkins deals rationally and bluntly.

A lot of people don't like blunt

"Rationally" is the utter opposite of Hopkins' rants. I'm honestly bemused how anyone could apply that word to her and believe it themselves.

I don't mind blunt. I don't like cruel and small-minded. There's a difference.

Niamh. 30-01-2015 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7548306)
You as well, be warned, lol

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elliebrew 30-01-2015 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 7548324)
"Rationally" is the utter opposite of Hopkins' rants. I'm honestly bemused how anyone could apply that word to her and believe it themselves.

I don't mind blunt. I don't like cruel and small-minded. There's a difference.

example of her non rationality, cruelty and small-mindedness please? I can think of none

jennyjuniper 30-01-2015 03:58 PM

Sometimes I agree with what Katy H says, wholeheartedly and other times I don't. But shge does make a refreshing change from the politically correct society that has got worse and worse over the years. Sometimes things NEED to be said and to hell with the PC brigade.

Lostie! 30-01-2015 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7548340)
example of her non rationality, cruelty and small-mindedness please? I can think of none

Some examples:

Mocking a seriously ill ebola patient and trying to kick up a panic about her being an "ebola bomb"? I fail to see any rationality there, yet I see plenty of cruelty. I know I'd be horrified if a loved one of mine was diagnosed with a highly deadly virus and saw them being made the subject of nasty jokes online.

Making jokes about the Glasgow helicopter crash? Seems pretty cruel to me.

Casually calling for more bombing of Palestine without even acknowledging the innocents caught up in these conflicts? Again, not at all rational and very cruel.

Stereotyping people of certain names / the overweight / the unemployed as all sharing the same, negative traits? No rationality here and no actual logic but a prime example of a tiny, nasty mind.

Kazanne 30-01-2015 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jennyjuniper (Post 7548349)
Sometimes I agree with what Katy H says, wholeheartedly and other times I don't. But shge does make a refreshing change from the politically correct society that has got worse and worse over the years. Sometimes things NEED to be said and to hell with the PC brigade.

:clap1::clap1::clap1::cheer::cheer:

Jack The Cat 30-01-2015 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jennyjuniper (Post 7548349)
Sometimes I agree with what Katy H says, wholeheartedly and other times I don't. But shge does make a refreshing change from the politically correct society that has got worse and worse over the years. Sometimes things NEED to be said and to hell with the PC brigade.

Totally agree, one of the main reasons I like her.

Jack The Cat 30-01-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 7548383)
Some examples:

Mocking a seriously ill ebola patient and trying to kick up a panic about her being an "ebola bomb"? I fail to see any rationality there, yet I see plenty of cruelty. I know I'd be horrified if a loved one of mine was diagnosed with a highly deadly virus and saw them being made the subject of nasty jokes online.

Making jokes about the Glasgow helicopter crash? Seems pretty cruel to me.

Casually calling for more bombing of Palestine without even acknowledging the innocents caught up in these conflicts? Again, not at all rational and very cruel.

Stereotyping people of certain names / the overweight / the unemployed as all sharing the same, negative traits? No rationality here and no actual logic but a prime example of a tiny, nasty mind.

But do you have any examples of bad things she has done?

Lostie! 30-01-2015 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7548495)
But do you have any examples of bad things she has done?

We were discussing her comments. I was asked to provide examples of her comments being nasty, small-minded and irrational. I did that.

And making horrid comments like that is doing something bad as far as I'm concerned. Words can be harmful.


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