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Johnnyuk123 01-02-2015 10:02 PM

Anyone else buying the Pratez sympathy vote besides the ever so predictable trolls?:hehe:

keekee21 01-02-2015 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7557837)
It happens to me all the time. I'm just not good in groups. But these days i just don't care anymore what people think of me. :hugesmile:

Scientifically it has been proved being ostrazised is worse than being bullied, as humans we are naturally more comfortable in groups and when people shun you it hurts, deeply. It takes this type of experience to gain a hard skin and once ostrazised you do care a little less about people's thoughts of your character - and care less which is good.

I honestly think he was being truthful when he said it was painful, and I don't really like him that much... but I would not wish that type of ostracization on anyone. No-one deserves what they are doing to him in that house. I feel sorry for him and it will take many years for him to get over it.

Part of me hopes he stays in and "fights" it but the other part hope he walks for his own mental wellbeing, I think he has mental issues anyway.

Mystic Mock 01-02-2015 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 7557857)
Anyone else buying the Pratez sympathy vote besides the ever so predictable trolls?:hehe:

I think supporting a bully is more trollish, but whatever floats your boat.:hehe:

Oops! that last part might have been verbal rape.:laugh2:

Jules2 01-02-2015 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by keekee21 (Post 7557835)
Being ostrazised by a group of people is one of the worse things anyone can go through. I believe him when he said it is worse than his fathers death, that is how it felt when it happened to me. Have some compassion.

He ostracised himself, he chose to just run with Nadia his enabler. Even now he could join in if he wants to. He will take the reins so I do not feel sorry for him at all, he is a good actor and wants to win by hook or by crook.

bots 01-02-2015 10:05 PM

he is so upset ....

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Originally Posted by Twitter Robot (Post 7557851)


jscoo47 01-02-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Caballo (Post 7557459)
Still unpleasant to watch even if he is a total bellsmash.

Very clever editing tonight. BB giving us the sad story of poor lonely unloved Perez, followed immediately by KH asking where knob head was.

Dream on BB if you think we are falling for it.

Johnnyuk123 01-02-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by keekee21 (Post 7557868)
Scientifically it has been proved being ostrazised is worse than being bullied, as humans we are naturally more comfortable in groups and when people shun you it hurts, deeply. It takes this type of experience to gain a hard skin and once ostrazised you do care a little less about people's thoughts of your character - and care less which is good.

I honestly think he was being truthful when he said it was painful, and I don't really like him that much... but I would not wish that type of ostracization on anyone. No-one deserves what they are doing to him in that house. I feel sorry for him and it will take many years for him to get over it.

Part of me hopes he stays in and "fights" it but the other part hope he walks for his own mental wellbeing, I think he has mental issues anyway.

And none of the above has he brought upon himself? Please explain?

Jack The Cat 01-02-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton (Post 7557469)
He's a nice bloke when he's a nice bloke.

That strangely makes a lot sense to me.

Vanessa 01-02-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by keekee21 (Post 7557868)
Scientifically it has been proved being ostrazised is worse than being bullied, as humans we are naturally more comfortable in groups and when people shun you it hurts, deeply. It takes this type of experience to gain a hard skin and once ostrazised you do care a little less about people's thoughts of your character - and care less which is good.

I honestly think he was being truthful when he said it was painful, and I don't really like him that much... but I would not wish that type of ostracization on anyone. No-one deserves what they are doing to him in that house. I feel sorry for him and it will take many years for him to get over it.

Part of me hopes he stays in and "fights" it but the other part hope he walks for his own mental wellbeing, I think he has mental issues anyway.

he's very strong and normally he gives as good as he gets. but he was drunk and he just blurted it all out. the BB facebook page is full of people asking for KH to stop bullying Perez.

Johnnyuk123 01-02-2015 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7557881)
he's very strong and normally he gives as good as he gets. but he was drunk and he just blurted it all out. the BB facebook page is full of people asking for KH to stop bullying Perez.

Kav was just drunk too and you said..........

mazerunner_888 01-02-2015 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 7557872)
I think supporting a bully is more trollish, but whatever floats your boat.

:clap1:

Johnnyuk123 01-02-2015 10:11 PM

Pratez states CLEARLY on his OWN website that he promises to not bully anymore. Can someone please explain why he said that if he is in fact NOT a bully?

jscoo47 01-02-2015 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by keekee21 (Post 7557835)
Being ostrazised by a group of people is one of the worse things anyone can go through. I believe him when he said it is worse than his fathers death, that is how it felt when it happened to me. Have some compassion.

KH made those comments about isolating him after all his terrible behaviour and after Alexander walked. Everybody was moaning about him and doing nothing. After losing his ally he became reflective. It is a shame he could not reflect on his behaviour before then.

Sadly the phase "you reap what you sow" comes to mind.

P

Mystic Mock 01-02-2015 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoo47 (Post 7557877)
Very clever editing tonight. BB giving us the sad story of poor lonely unloved Perez, followed immediately by KH asking where knob head was.

Dream on BB if you think we are falling for it.

But BB wants Hopkins to win so why would they edit her badly?:joker:

erinp5 01-02-2015 10:14 PM

Looks happy enough to me
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/B8yxQGLIIAA0dIl.mp4

http://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/B8yxQGLIIAA0dIl.mp4

Amy Jade 01-02-2015 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7557881)
he's very strong and normally he gives as good as he gets. but he was drunk and he just blurted it all out. the BB facebook page is full of people asking for KH to stop bullying Perez.

The BB facebook page is cringe to read so I am sure they are. They were also defending Perez yesterday over his comments towards Calum and blaming Katie Hopkins and even Calum himself for being in the room. They're simply there to be laughed at.

Vanessa 01-02-2015 10:15 PM

I think BB will tell Hopkins to stop bulling Perez. If she continues she will not win. People will pile on the votes for anyone who is against her in the final. Like it happened with Dexter.

mazerunner_888 01-02-2015 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 7557893)
Pratez states CLEARLY on his OWN website that he promises to not bully anymore. Can someone please explain why he said that if he is in fact NOT a bully?

He knew Katie Hopkins was going in the house who is a vile bully as we have seen.

Mystic Mock 01-02-2015 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 7557893)
Pratez states CLEARLY on his OWN website that he promises to not bully anymore. Can someone please explain why he said that if he is in fact NOT a bully?

That's in the past, shouldn't be forgotten about now like Jim Davidson beating up his Wives?

joeysteele 01-02-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 7557872)
I think supporting a bully is more trollish, but whatever floats your boat.:hehe:

Oops! that last part might have been verbal rape.:laugh2:

Like Katie Hopkins, it does seem to me likely that those who support Katie Hopkins, and it is their right to do so if they believe she is a good person and does right,are possibly more eager to talk about Perez by making threads about him.
However to call those who defend him trolls, at times I add because we who 'like' him do see and point out his faults too in the main,is out of line in my view.

I don't fall for things easily and resent being inferred I would, and I don't believe this was for show from Perez,I have already said enough on this earlier on this thread.
He is likely broken at this moment in time, there comes a time for reflection and the alcohol will have probably brought him down too.

He started that game where they talked about being drunk, it may have hit him that things could have been different in there but he also knows there is the 'gorgon',with snakes for hair,(Katie Hopkins that is), who would have him turned into stone if she could, hissing all the time and setting out to bring him down and 'influence' others to ostracise him.

She has no right to do that at all,no right to even just 'suggest' it,living with someone in that scenario,knowing they are trying to get you ostracised, must be literally near unbearable.

Johnnyuk123 01-02-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mazerunner_888 (Post 7557909)
He knew Katie Hopkins was going in the house who is a vile bully as we have seen.

Please answer my question.

Q:Pratez states CLEARLY on his OWN website that he promises to not bully anymore. Can someone please explain why he said that if he is in fact NOT a bully?

He himself says he is a bully. His words. Explain?

mazerunner_888 01-02-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7557904)
I think BB will tell Hopkins to stop bulling Perez. If she continues she will not win. People will pile on the votes for anyone who is against her in the final. Like it happened with Dexter.

If she wins I will literally spit on my tv screen.

Mystic Mock 01-02-2015 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscoo47 (Post 7557899)
KH made those comments about isolating him after all his terrible behaviour and after Alexander walked. Everybody was moaning about him and doing nothing. After losing his ally he became reflective. It is a shame he could not reflect on his behaviour before then.

Sadly the phase "you reap what you sow" comes to mind.

P

There's been worse than Perez that has entered that house, and most sane Housemates didn't try to isolate them from the whole house.

And the public wasn't so sick as to revel in it if it ever did come to pass.

Jules2 01-02-2015 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keekee21 (Post 7557868)
Scientifically it has been proved being ostrazised is worse than being bullied, as humans we are naturally more comfortable in groups and when people shun you it hurts, deeply. It takes this type of experience to gain a hard skin and once ostrazised you do care a little less about people's thoughts of your character - and care less which is good.

I honestly think he was being truthful when he said it was painful, and I don't really like him that much... but I would not wish that type of ostracization on anyone. No-one deserves what they are doing to him in that house. I feel sorry for him and it will take many years for him to get over it.

Part of me hopes he stays in and "fights" it but the other part hope he walks for his own mental wellbeing, I think he has mental issues anyway.

He is not being ostracised, he was drunk. He sits with KP and Keith as Katie H sits with Michelle and co. He has the ability to sit with anyone he wants, he is trying to take over with their fun, far from being ostracised, they were all laughing with him when he suggested they each give their drunkest moments.

Keith was a bit uncomfortable and sort of walked away, dont blame him really with the stories which were coming out. He had the floor, hardly being ostracised. He is playing for the sympathy votes against Katie Hopkins, he really wants to stay in the house until the end, this will make him feel great as he will feel he has won over. KH. who in turn has told him that the public will keep him in because of the way he is acting.

If he doesnt want KH to banter with him then walk away or dont start anything. He loves the attention though because he knows it will give both of them airtime thus he divides and possibly conquers, he knows what he is doing.

Johnnyuk123 01-02-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 7557931)
There's been worse than Perez that has entered that house, and most sane Housemates didn't try to isolate them from the whole house.

And the public wasn't so sick as to revel in it if it ever did come to pass.

Why would the housemates left want to hang out with Pratez? They want to hang out with him because...................?


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