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Jessica. 05-03-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7626864)
Well not drinking in church =/= never drink alcohol.

Just as if I didn't allow people to wear shoes in my house on my lovely carpet doesn't mean I don't agree with shoes. :joker:

But people drink in church all the time Morsh, the priests have wine to represent Jesus' blood.

Livia 05-03-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 7626857)
If a gay couple had a business and they refused to serve straight people, that would be disgusting behaviour as well.

That's not the same thing Jess at all, Jess!

Marsh. 05-03-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 7626867)
But people drink in church all the time Morsh, the priests have wine to represent Jesus' blood.

So where did you get the "no alcohol" rule from? Your arse?

Crimson Dynamo 05-03-2015 02:32 PM

would the christian printer have to have gay sex with the couple?

if so then I am with the printer here, sorry


I know that the gays are keen for new members but that is too far



(perhaps a handjob if it were a big order)

Livia 05-03-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7626865)
I believe so in this circumstance yeah. I mean, anyone can start a religion and say X, Y and Z is against my religion, so I think sticking to Human rights trumping religious rights is a good plan. There's plenty of stuff that came out of the Bible that religions have dropped already because it's so out of step with modern society already.

Can't they just live and let live, respect each other's beliefs and lifestyle and not burden the rest of us with a storm in a teacup, hmmm?

Livia 05-03-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7626873)
would the christian printer have to have gay sex with the couple?

if so then I am with the printer here, sorry


I know that the gays are keen for new members but that is too far



(perhaps a handjob if it were a big order)

LOL... you're an arse, LT.

Nedusa 05-03-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7626873)
would the christian printer have to have gay sex with the couple?

if so then I am with the printer here, sorry


I know that the gays are keen for new members but that is too far



(perhaps a handjob if it were a big order)


How heavy is that fcuking Dog in your Avatar picture......:shocked::shocked:

Jessica. 05-03-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7626870)
So where did you get the "no alcohol" rule from? Your arse?

Leviticus 10:9 “Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die.”

Niamh. 05-03-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7626875)
Can't they just live and let live, respect each other's beliefs and lifestyle and not burden the rest of us with a storm in a teacup, hmmm?

It probably doesn't feel like such a storm in a tea cup to that couple :shrug:

Niamh. 05-03-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 7626879)
Leviticus 10:9 “Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die.”

Don't be silly, no ones going to fit in the tabernacle Jess :nono:

Kizzy 05-03-2015 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 7626857)
If a gay couple had a business and they refused to serve straight people, that would be disgusting behaviour as well.

That would be personal and nothing to do with religious observance though.

Jessica. 05-03-2015 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7626882)
Don't be silly, no ones going to fit in the tabernacle Jess :nono:

:joker: Back then the tabernacle was basically a pop-up church, silly.

Nedusa 05-03-2015 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7626881)
It probably doesn't feel like such a storm in a tea cup to that couple :shrug:

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Gay people or Gay marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome gay people with open arms.

Mokka 05-03-2015 02:38 PM

Similar case in the states:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...cake/22771685/

Bakery owners end up losing their business and will be paying a hefty fine for their "religious stance"

Was it worth it?

Jessica. 05-03-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7626887)
Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Gay people or Gay marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome gay people with open arms.

Nobody is asking anybody to like gay people or gay lifestyle. :umm2: All they have to do is stop being discriminatory to potential customers.

Niamh. 05-03-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7626885)
That would be personal and nothing to do with religious observance though.

What if a person started up a religion where that was one of the rules, would it be ok then?

Livia 05-03-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7626881)
It probably doesn't feel like such a storm in a tea cup to that couple :shrug:

If it's tainted their life to such an extent, then they really need a reality check. Unless there's only one printer in Ireland. You could offer to do them on your computer, Niamh! If you do I want 10% for bringing the business in.

Nedusa 05-03-2015 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 7626891)
Nobody is asking anybody to like gay people or gay lifestyle. :umm2: All they have to do is stop being discriminatory to potential customers.

Hang on a minute.........surely if they don't agree with Gay Marriage their actions in refusing to give work to this man will always be viewed as discriminatory.........

Niamh. 05-03-2015 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7626887)
Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Gay people or Gay marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome gay people with open arms.

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Black people or Black to white marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome Black people with open arms

sound different now?

Kizzy 05-03-2015 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7626892)
What if a person started up a religion where that was one of the rules, would it be ok then?

Reaching a bit here Niamh... I was referring to the established churches in Ireland at the moment, I'm not discussing hypothetical religion.

Livia 05-03-2015 02:41 PM

The thing that really aggravates me about these stories is... and this isn't going to be popular... but if that couple had gone to a Muslim printer and he's refused them, I think most people would have said well, fair enough then...

Nedusa 05-03-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7626898)
Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Black people or Black to white marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome Black people with open arms

sound different now?

What's your point............???

Niamh. 05-03-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7626893)
If it's tainted their life to such an extent, then they really need a reality check. Unless there's only one printer in Ireland. You could offer to do them on your computer, Niamh! If you do I want 10% for bringing the business in.

Nivia Printers, I like it :hehe:

JoshBB 05-03-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7626819)
As much as it was a ****ty thing for him to do.. in the grand scheme of things, it's his business, so who can choose to serve and not serve whoever he sees fit, his beliefs are his and he's fully entitled to have them.

I agree with this entirely.

Ninastar 05-03-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7626900)
The thing that really aggravates me about these stories is... and this isn't going to be popular... but if that couple had gone to a Muslim printer and he's refused them, I think most people would have said well, fair enough then...

if this was the case, it wouldn't even reach the media/social websites etc etc

the main reason people are so bothered about it is because they can bitch about christians


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